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On 29 Apr 2009, at 17:55, Dave Fugate <[email protected]> wrote:
The technical bar for inclusion of 3rd party tests into our checkin
system is pretty simple - the test process needs to emit a non-zero
exit code when it fails. When some portion of a test fails under
IronPython for whatever reason, we simply disable that portion. For
example, we run around 200 CPython 2.6 test_*.py files for every
IronPython checkin with roughly a thousand individual test cases in
these modules disabled. With this in mind, it likely doesn't matter
that most of Django's test suite does not pass => we can disable the
broken stuff.
As for inclusion of commit messages in the CodePlex source synchs,
we'll look into this. It's a bit challenging as sometimes we work
on getting IronPython running against/with the latest unannounced
Microsoft technology (e.g., we had IronPython running under
Silverlight months before Silverlight was publically announced) and
this is often reflected in our checkin comments.
I can't believe that editing / redacting commit messages is an
impossible challenge. :-)
It really would be very useful.
Michael
Thanks,
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]
] On Behalf Of Vernon Cole
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:34 AM
To: Discussion of IronPython
Subject: Re: [IronPython] pywin32 on Iron Python?
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Jeff Hardy <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Dave,
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Dave Fugate
<[email protected]> wrote:
That said, there is something extremely useful the community can
do for IronPython that our team simply cannot: get 3rd party
Python applications such as Django, pywin32, NumPy, etc running
under IronPython. This could mean adapting something like
adodbapi.py to utilize IronPython APIs similar to what Vernon Cole
did, or re-implementing NumPy's C-based modules in C#. While it's
quite difficult (impossible?) for anyone on our team to submit
changes supporting IronPython back to other OSS projects, the rest
of the IronPython Community happily doesn't have this limitation.
Dave:
My condolences on having to put up with the lawyers. I have to sleep
with one, but at least she doesn't tell me who I can contribute code
to. ;-)
-- VC
The problem with this approach is that I don't really want to clutter
up e.g. Django with workarounds for IP bugs that are actually
incompatibilities with CPython - they should and will get fixed in IP
at some point. If it's a legitimate platform difference, or an
invalid
assumption by Django, then it can be fixed there - but I've found
very
few of those relative to bugs in IP itself.
That's true. There is still one outstanding bug in adodbapi on iron
which I hope will eventually be fixed in IPy. (see Work Item # 18222
-- August 2008) The workaround was just too large to use and would
still have left the IPy COM implementation with a bug. When the COM
bug gets fixed that last test failure will go away. There are other
places where "if IronPython:" made sense and was used. (I also
included simple workarounds for bugs like #18223.)
-- VC
Also, would it possible for you guys to revisit your commit messages?
I would at least like to see a note in the CP commit messages when a
particular CP issue has been fixed.
+ 1. Maybe my bug has already been fixed and I don't know.
-- VC
If anyone wants to contribute in this manner, please just give us
a heads up so we can obtain permission to add tests for the 3rd
party app(s) to our checkin system. Also, if there's enough
interest in this I can setup a wiki page on CodePlex to keep track
of whose working on what...
+1 on the wiki page.
Now this is interesting! Last time I checked, Django's test suite was
nowhere near passing - would the full test suite have to pass before
you'd include it?
In other words, how good do we have to get?
I really appreciate the work you guys are doing here. It can't be
easy
swimming against the tide all the time!
- Jeff
Amen!
-- VC
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