On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com> wrote: > On 29/11/2012 2:58 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> >> Most serious users of Maven start out by building and releasing a >> common parent POM for their corporation or workgroup. This locks down >> plugin versions and configures core plugins such as the >> maven-compiler-plugin. So the old default to 1.3 was never a very >> serious inconvenience, since it's just a line or two as part of the >> overall process. >> >> Please don't even suggest the idea that we'd default Maven to 1.7. > > It would be good to know what new Maven adopters are intending to use as > development platforms. > As you correctly point out, the old-timers have already figured out how to > set up the version that they want to use. > >> Taken as a lump, the Java development community is very slow to adopt >> new versions of Java, thanks in part to the disfunctions of Sun and >> Oracle that occupied the last few years. > > I would be surprised if a new Maven user would be starting a new project on > a version of Java earlier than 7 given that it has been out for so long. > I suppose that there are some users who are new to Maven but are converting > an old project that has its own history. > We stay pretty current but it does take a few months to get the time to > switch.
One of us will certainly be surprised. I know many people who still live under a '1.5' policy, and many more who live under a '1.6' policy. I don't think I know anyone professionally who is depending on 1.7. The slowness of policy, certification, and other bureaucracy is not to be underestimated. > > Is there any way to find out what new users are using as their Java > compilers. Remember that many 'new maven users' are porting existing code bases, with existing dependencies, and existing customer obligations, to maven. > > > Ron >> >> As for the core devs, no, un-uh. We have our own constraints, and >> requiring Java 1.7 to contribute to Maven would gratuitously exclude. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > Ron Wheeler > President > Artifact Software Inc > email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com > skype: ronaldmwheeler > phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org