On 29/11/2012 9:06 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Ron Wheeler
<rwhee...@artifact-software.com> wrote:
On 29/11/2012 2:58 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
Most serious users of Maven start out by building and releasing a
common parent POM for their corporation or workgroup. This locks down
plugin versions and configures core plugins such as the
maven-compiler-plugin. So the old default to 1.3 was never a very
serious inconvenience, since it's just a line or two as part of the
overall process.
Please don't even suggest the idea that we'd default Maven to 1.7.
It would be good to know what new Maven adopters are intending to use as
development platforms.
As you correctly point out, the old-timers have already figured out how to
set up the version that they want to use.
Taken as a lump, the Java development community is very slow to adopt
new versions of Java, thanks in part to the disfunctions of Sun and
Oracle that occupied the last few years.
I would be surprised if a new Maven user would be starting a new project on
a version of Java earlier than 7 given that it has been out for so long.
I suppose that there are some users who are new to Maven but are converting
an old project that has its own history.
We stay pretty current but it does take a few months to get the time to
switch.
One of us will certainly be surprised. I know many people who still
live under a '1.5' policy, and many more who live under a '1.6'
policy. I don't think I know anyone professionally who is depending on
1.7. The slowness of policy, certification, and other bureaucracy is
not to be underestimated.
You do now.
I am not too surprised actually.
Is there any way to find out what new users are using as their Java
compilers.
Remember that many 'new maven users' are porting existing code bases,
with existing dependencies, and existing customer obligations, to
maven.
True but I would like to know what the breakdown actually is.
Do we have any idea about the distribution of the people who are
adopting Maven.
Ron
As for the core devs, no, un-uh. We have our own constraints, and
requiring Java 1.7 to contribute to Maven would gratuitously exclude.
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