Harold Fuchs wrote:
> On 05/10/2008 11:58, Rob Clement wrote:
>> Harold Fuchs wrote:
>>> On 05/10/2008 08:39, mike scott wrote:
>>>> (Everything snipped - can we put this subthread to rest please?)
>>>>
>>>> /IF/ a mailicious mail account has /everything/ forwarded to a
>>>> target victim, there is no problem at all for the victim to
>>>> unsubscribe the mailicious account from this list, even without any
>>>> access to that malicious account. They do need to know the email
>>>> address of the account.
>>>>
>>>> They just send an unsub email with that malicious address as
>>>> sender. Because of the forwarding, they will receive the unsub
>>>> confirmation request. They then reply to this.
>>>>
>>>> Job done.
>>>>
>>>>   
>>> I think that's right but what puzzles me is how to subscribe some
>>> else in the first place. When one subscribes one receives the same
>>> sort of  "please confirm" message as one gets when one unsubscribes.
>>> So if *you* tried to subscribe *me*, I'd get the "please confirm"
>>> message and just wouldn't do it. Would someone please explain what
>>> I'm missing here?
>>>
>>>
>> Harold
>>
>> If you look at the thread, someone created a gmail account with this
>> person's name. This someone then registered with [email protected]
>> to get all the e-mails to gmail and then forwarded the e-mails from
>> gmail to his other address.
> ".. his other address" ??? I think you meant the victim's address ???
>
> Ah. If I forward this list's mail to someone then that person can't do
> anything about it. Unsubscribing won't help because the person
> wouldn't be subscribed; may never even have heard of OpenOffice.org.
> This list won't know anything about the person.
>
>> What confuses me is that you have to agree to receive e-mail at the
>> non-gmail address, 
> Do you? How come? I can set a filter in Thunderbird to forward mail
> somewhere. I don't think the "somewhere" has any say in the matter. I
> think I can do the same from gmail. And it wouldn't have to be a
> "non-gmail" address.
>
>> so either it is seomone close to him or he has been very careless.
> I don't think either of those is right. I think all the perpetrator
> needs to know is the victim's "real" e-mail address. I think the
> victim of this is actually powerless to prevent it. I think the only
> thing the victim can do is set up a filter to delete the unwanted
> traffic. Please prove me wrong.

The solution would be to have a reliable contact for the list
owner/manager, who can then deal with the situation.  I'm surprised the
moderator didn't pick up on "Chuck" as IIRC, all his posts were
moderated.  I assume, perhaps incorrectly, that the moderator would have
some contact with the list owner.



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