On 12/15/2008 12:53 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> 
>> Excellent decision. A reply that I provided over on the OOo general list:
>> 
>>>>>>> However two main points:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. It is generally advisable to keep and maintain the current version of
>>>>>>> Ubuntu OOo in both 8.04 and 8.10 as those versions will: 1) continue to
>>>>>>> receive standard and security updates, and 2) they are versions that use
>>>>>>> gstreamer for media support. Have you ever had to deal with jmf in
>>>>>>> standard OOo?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. OOo 3.0 can easily be downloaded and installed in 8.04 or 8.10
>>>>>>> without any distruption or interference to an existing (U)OOo install.
>>>>>>> Advocating that people install from a ppa that will overwrite their
>>>>>>> existing (U)OOo installations is, IMO, irresponsible.
> 
> ppa does stand for personal package area - I should of spelled that out 
> before.
> 
> On the other hand it can also be used by teams for publishing their 
> collective work via launchpad. In this case it is a team effort and not 
> that of an individual.
> 
> In this case the who:
> 
> mathias klose - member of the Ubuntu foundation team and ubuntu core 
> development team
> Chris cheney - member Ubuntu Core Development team
> 
> Will these packages go upstream into the main ubuntu repositories..I 
> don't know - I can guess.
> 
> Would a person that uses say OxygenOffice ( 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ooop ) not be allowed to enter a bug 
> into the openoffice.org tacking system? Of course not, they do.
> 
> How about someone that builds their own copy?
> 
> Anyway I will admit that I should of spelled this out more - but 
> irresponsible. I don't think so, but then I'm biased.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Drew

The 'irresponsible' part is for those that adivse others to install from
a the ppa (whether it be Mathias' & Chris' or any other) without first
advising them of all of the issues: *particularly* the issue that it
will cause their existing repo 2.4.1 version to be overwritten. Case in
point; from M. Henri:

> Thanks, Drew, in particular for the repositories ! I've now used them to
> replace OOo 2.4.1 with OOo 3.0.0

M. Henri now has no stable 2.4.1 on his system and instead has a ppa
(read development) 3.0.0 version. If he runs into problems with this ppa
version where shall he file a bug report?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org ?

I suppose if he is testing 'jaunty' (development version of Ubuntu) (see
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org and
https://code.launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs) then Chris or Mathias may
respond.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/288072

But I reckon that Chris has his hands full with supporting the standard
flavours of (U)OOo without having non-testing 'standard users' pop up on
launchpad with ppa 3.0.0 issues. Of course I could be wrong about this
part, but given the still outstanding (U)OOo issues, I'd bet not.

I have the same issues with sites such as this:
<http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml>
that advocate the same without forewarning the 'standard user' in advance.

Sorry, but I stand by my statement.






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