NoOp wrote: > On 02/13/2009 07:50 PM, H.S. wrote: > > Did you have a look at the references to 3.1 that I provided in another > link (Re: installing the deb in a different dir using --instdir) which > show some additions to outlining? > > <quote> > If you feel like experimenting, you might want to give the dev version > of 3.1 a spin. Here are some of the new/improved features: > > http://www.oooninja.com/ > </quote>
I did, but installing 3.0.1, the "stable" release, itself did not go as a deb package should go, that destroyed my confidence in an alpha release and I did not try out 3.1. Anyway, I took another look at the site. There is nothing regarding the navigator there. But here is something interesting: ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.oooninja.com/2008/03/openofficeorg-30-new-features.html "The person who claims: "OOo suite does everything required for writing, etc. (including outlining if you dock the 'navigator' to the side of the page window)" is apparently not using outlining the way most professional writers do. It's awkward as hell to have to flip between windows, when MSWord lets me click to open or close entire sections of an outline to work on that seciton ... all in one screen. That's a SIX-YEAR OLD FEATURE REQUEST! Issue #3959 has 161 votes for it. Read the comments, please This is a badly needed feature ... and we're getting eye candy instead." ------------------------------------------------------ I tried the Navigator in 3.0.1 and the above poster appears to be right. Navigator appears to suck ... but to be honest, I haven't read all the help regarding Navigator and I might be missing something. However, whenever I have tried the outlining mode in MSO, I have found it to be much more intuitive and user friendly. So from user's perspective, the stark difference is right there. > > Does that added 'feature' not help/fix your requirements? I will give it a try when it is released (3.1) and see how it goes ... I mentioned this already in my earlier posts. > > I fail to understand exactly what you are looking for regarding > outlining and OOo. As someone that transitioned multiple complicated As I said earlier, to organize the structure of a document with ease and with no kludges or workaround. What is not clear to you in this? > technical documents (in Japanese to English no less) from MS Word to > Adobe FrameMaker some years ago: > > 1. I Fail to understand why you/anyone continue to use MS Word for > technical document writing to begin with. I you have read my earlier posts you would know I do not normally use MSO for technical writing (very rarely actually, only when somebody wants something edited in MSO) ..... heck hardly even for non-technical writing. As for others, obviously I am not in a position to say. > > 2. Pehaps I misinterprted your comment: "- No outline mode (now this is > one long standing feature request if ever there was one)." > Back to #1, why are doing tech docs MS Word to begin with? And what See above. > specifically are you trying to do in OOo that you can't do with MS Word? I have explained that in great detail in my past emails in this list. Cannot put in the effort to repeat that. So if you really want to know, you can search the list (the posts should been in Aug~Sept 2008). > > You mentioned that you primarily use LaTex -- for some reason, in nearly > 20 years of word processor uses I've never figured out LaTex et al. I've Too bad. For technical writing I am yet to see a product that can beat it. People may argue for Frame Maker or Wordperfect, but both are not free and neither is as robust or polished as LaTeX (are they even still maintained and developed?). > searched for GUI interfaces, I've tried to create documents, and in each > and every case I've failed. I suspect that it's because I've not ever There is a newsgroup for latex users. Very helpful and extremely knowledgeable people there. There is a package for LaTeX in Ubuntu and installing it these days with debs is almost trivial! Firing up an editor and creating a document like this: %----------------------------------------- \documentclass{article} \title{The Fox and the Dog} \author{H. S.} \begin{document} \maketitle \section{The Naughty Fox} The quick brown fix jumped over the sleeping lazy dog. \end{document} %----------------------------------------- and then running: $> pdflatex <latex file name here> produces a beautiful PDF of the document. > had to create a 'Tex' document in an academic environment before, but I have never made a Tex document either. Only LaTeX. > for some reason I still can't figure out how to create even the most > simple of LaTex documents. I wonder how a MS Office (Word) user or > creator of a technical could do the same? Sigh! I have taken great pains to clarify that LaTeX is not for the average joe user who writes a page or to of letters or the usual run of the mill business reports which just has headings, text and charts. LaTeX is best suited for research fields I already mentioned. Regards. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. 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