On 2009/04/17 12:11 PM  Harold Fuchs wrote:
On 17/04/2009 18:57, Larry Gusaas wrote:
On 2009/04/17 11:15 AM  Harold Fuchs wrote:
On 17/04/2009 16:20, Dave Post wrote:
A newsreader is a different matter because it should "know" everything it's dealing with is essentially email. It's a bit surprising to learn, then, that Thunderbird's newsreader doesn't support filters.
TB's news reader does allow some filtering. It doesn't allow one to create a filter on the relevant header. I simply don't understand how these people write code; how can you make the headers available in one part of the program and not in another part of the same program? It was *more* work to do it that way than to have made all the headers available in both parts.

Thunderbird filters newsgroup messages for the Subject, From, and Date headers. These are the only headers that are downloaded when TB checks for new messages in a newsgroup. The rest of the headers and the body of the message are downloaded when you read a specific message. TB does not filter on the message or headers after they have been downloaded. It is not more work to do it this way. TB 3 will have more filtering ability for newsgroups. It is more work to provide this function.

No. Writing two different filter-definition modules is more work.

Correct. That is why there is only one module in newsgroups now. More work is currently being done so you will be able to filter after downloading messages in the upcoming TB 3.

Why won't TB let me filter on the other headers after the messages have been downloaded? If the News component wants to define pre-download filtering let it do that as an extra facility, which it clearly is..

The pre-downloading filtering is basic. You need it so you can blacklist specific addresses and subjects. Filtering after downloading is an extra function that is being added in TB 3. It requires more work to implement than having just pre-downloading filtering.

Mail and Newsgroups have different requirements for setting up filters and for programming the ability to do so.

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Larry I. Gusaas
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