On 11/05/2009 03:39 PM, John Kaufmann wrote:
> In a message dated 2009.11.05 17:52 -0500, James E. Lang wrote:
> 
>> I've just looked at the archives and it is not a newbie friendly place 
>> either.
> 
> Indeed not ;-) - and the search facility is both primitive and buggy.

In what way(s)?

1. Are you agreeing that this list is not a newby friendly place?

  If so, you think wrong. Had you (and James E. Lang) actually taken
time to to *read* the archives, you would have found that many of us OOo
volunteers have spent hours, and more hours, and sometimes days
attempting to respond to "newbie" OOo issues and questions.

  Why don't you take the time to check out the thousands of
posts/responses that many of us have provided to other OOo users over
the years? How about the responses that you've received here? Were they
not to your satisfaction? Didn't you find that other users at least
*tried* to assist you, even through some (most) of your _voluminous_
posts where one has to really search to find the question you are
asking? Even then, did we (the list responders) not meet your esteemed
expectations?

2. The search facility for the archives is just fine and is on par with
most any other archive search. Perhaps if you'd learn to use nntp and
review the list with the gmane.org (it's free you know) server all you'd
need to do is a simple search on email address, subject, etc.

  But let's go back to the standard OOo archives:
<http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SearchList?list=users&searchText=kaufmann&defaultField=author&Search=Search>
doesn't work for you?
1-40 of about 158 search results: (Sorted by relevance)
works for me.

Here, let's try the same for NoOp:
<http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SearchList?list=users&searchText=noop&defaultField=author&Search=Search>
1-40 of about 2,617 search results: (Sorted by relevance)
or
<http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SearchList?list=users&searchText=Barb%40onr.com&defaultField=author&Search=Search>
or
<http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SearchList?list=users&searchText=Fuchs&defaultField=author&Search=Search>
or
<http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SearchList?list=users&searchText=knott&defaultField=author&Search=Search>
or
<http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SearchList?list=users&searchText=mckee&defaultField=author&Search=Search>
[Brian's a little more elusive as he's changed over time - but perhaps
<http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SearchList?list=users&searchText=brian&defaultField=author&Search=Search>
will work instead.

There are *many* more contributors to the list, that I've not bothered
to add, that have spent a considerable amount of their *unpaid* time and
effort on this list responding to any and all questions on this list for
several years.
  Were you not such a pompous ignorant ass, you might have bothered to
actually *use* the archive search facilities before making your statements.

So, here's an exercise for you; add up and count the amount of posts
that you and Mr. Lang have actually posted on this list (you now know
how to use the archive search facility) in response to assisting *any*
other OOo user issues. Now add up the amount of posts that you've made
asking for help, responses that you've received, and the amount that
were helpful to you and, of course how many posts you've made since
joining this list that just simply waste people's time (like this one).







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