In news:[email protected],
jonathon <[email protected]> typed:
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 19:11, Twayne wrote:
were brought up on Linux of any flavor, it just doesn't fit the bill.
The major issue is if the software you want is available on the
platform of choice.
No; the features and functions I NEED, not want, is the key there. MS still
have the corner on several things LInux hasn't yet opened up. It may
someday, but ... not yet.
For the majority of home users, and front office corporate employees,
FLOSS alternatives are equal to, or better than those from Microsoft.
FOSS or FLOSS doesn't matter; it's the features and functions one NEEDS that
are the crux of it all. I go open source, GPL, anything open source first,
and if it can do what I NEED it to do, then great. If unfortunately I can
only find those things from a proprietary company, well, that's life.
"FLOSS alternatives" are as good as the authors and contributors of the
programs and it has little to do with being "better" because it's FLOSS or
MICROSOFT or whomever; it's functionality that is key. There just is no
panacea that's going to be turn key in any way for any large group; perhaps
groups within a group, but not 100%. My requirements are modest: It should
never be single-sourced as in a Microsoft product whenever possible and more
importantly must support the NEEDED features and functions it is being
pursued for. The greatest program in the world is of no use or interest to
me if it doesn't provide features and functionality that I need.
For the majority of back office server usage, propriety and FLOSS
solutions are on a par.
That's debatable, misdirects original generalities into specifics and
basically changes the flavor of the thread. As such, it's of no use to this
conversation.
At the very high end of things, Linux solutions, albeit proprietary,
are better than those from Microsoft.
Again, debatable, obvious in some, not so obvious in others and completely
irrelevant to my objection to simply spewing "Linux is best" as a way of
jumping on microsoft. I'll jump all over Microsoft for some very obvious
and negative things they've done but I also do it with reason, not from a
simple fanatic background that has no intent other than to libel and defame.
I abhor Microsoft in fact, but the fact remains that they have the OS I NEED
and which has the functions and features LInux does not. It's as simple as
just not using an OS that is sub-par for MY needs. I am ME and no one else.
I don't care what others think unless they are jerks that want to claim
Linux is any kind of 100% turnkey for anything. Only limited experience can
provide that kind of background.
Between the very high end, and slightly above SOHO quality, Windows
products _usually_ offer features and functionality not available in
the FLOSS equivalent. Reasons for this vary, according to industry,
but as a general rule of thumb, it boils down to either copyrights on
the data that is used, or software patents, or it is so specialized
that it doesn't scratch any programmer's itch.
There is some truth to that, but as with the other claims, it's not across
the board and by the sheer existence of those facts, nothing stops LInux
from forking or superceding those features and functions with better code
and more ingenuity, something Microsoft has been very lean on for several
years now. You can succumb to that line of thinking if you wish, or better
yet believe that there are engenius entrepreneurs and partners out there who
aren't afraid of such things and know how to do them properly. Sun is a
good example of such a company and more are popping up every day.
case it's mostly the lack of drivers for software and hardware I
use, and/or
For me, Microsoft is utterly unable to provide drivers for the
hardware I use.
lol! Very funny. Go buy a Commodore 64 and it won't help a lot there
either. I don't succumg to attempts to pull conversations into new
territory; either stick to the subject or find a place where people agree
you're on topic. It's not hard to have a piece of equipment that won't run
on windows or Linux or Unix or ... etc etc etc., by simply not having
drivers or support software for them.
If there is a viable market for it, you can bet MS will be there in a
hurry with their still deep pockets, ready to take on any task regardless of
how wonderfully the originator thinks they've protected it all. And
besides, that drives it right back into the realm of "single sourcing",
which has been the major problem with MS for over a decade now. Even with
their claims to support open source, MS hasn't accomplished anything worth a
whit yet to prove it. A culture that huge simply cannot turn on a dime and
make such things happen even in eventuality, let alone quickly.
(You can laugh, or you can cry, but the simple fact is that Microsoft
Windows just doesn't work on that hardware. I basically had to prove
to the CEO of the company I bought it from, that I knew what *nix was,
before he allowed the sale of the system I have. Win7 won't run on it
either.)
Annnd, that's relative how? All it does is support my previous points.
Linux, BSD, and OpenSolaris run just fine.
Again, huh? Is that supposed to goad me into providing my own list?
EVERY successful operating systems "run just fine". That means nothing
though w/r to whether they meet my requirements or not.
jonathon
After a moment's deliberation and thinking about your comments and how you
made them, I've come to my own conclusion that you are trolling rather than
actually discussing anything. I like a good discussion of on topic subjects
but multiple instances of a closed mind show through your writing and tell
me you're a waste of time to spend further time with. Thus, in looking back
over my own writing, I notice I've treated you with responses typical of
your own, as I often do, when I decide I have a closed mind or a troller
wanting a platform. But I'm afraid my discussions with you are over. This
is too good a group to mess around with useless conversations of off topic
subjects and strays. You may color me gone.
Regards,
Twayne
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