On 06/09/2010 05:15 PM, John Kaufmann wrote:
> In a message dated 2010.06.09 18:10 -0500, NoOp wrote:
> 
>>> (1) What is the point of the envelope style?  According to the
>>> Stylist, the page style becomes "Envelope" after an envelope is
>>> formed from the Insert|Envelope wizard - but the page style
>>> apparently has no connection to what was defined in the Envelope
>>> wizard.
>> 
>> Open a new Writer document. Format|Page|Paper format:|Format:#10
>> Envelope|Orientation:Landscape. Address your envelope & print.
> 
> So, you don't use the "Envelope" page style (which is automagically, but 
> ambiguously, connected to the Insert|Envelope wizard)?  Also, since this 
> approach (either Format|Page or selection of the Envelope page style) 
> has no set provision for Return and Addressee blocks, how do you like to 
> handle that?

Your question was/is:

> (1) What is the point of the envelope style?  According to the
> Stylist, the page style becomes "Envelope" after an envelope is
> formed from the Insert|Envelope wizard - but the page style
> apparently has no connection to what was defined in the Envelope
> wizard.

Don't be anal and reply with "So, you don't use the "Envelope" page
style?" when I've provided you with an example on how I *use* the style.

I provided you with a proper example of the point of the envelope style.
I also showed you how I *use* the style in it's most basic form. There
is no "Insert|Envelope" _wizard_. It is a standard insert command
(Insert|Envelope) available on any Writer document. When you click it,
you'll see that in simply inserts an envelope _page_ above your
document/letter etc.


>>> (2) Where should the envelope size be set? - In the Envelope page
>>> style, the Envelope wizard Format tab, or the Printer tab
>>> (Setup->Advanced), or ... ?
>> 
>> See above. If you wish to modify the default Envelope Style:
>> Format|Styles...|select page styles|right click Envelope & click 'Modify'.
> 
> So then you /do/ favor using the Envelope page style?  

Yes John, I do indeed favor using the Envelope page style. I gave you an
example on how I use if I need to simply create an envelope.

> Of course I know 
> how to modify a page style, including Envelope, but a simple page lacks 
> essential attributes of an envelope (like address blocks), 

Well, it's not that hard to put in your own address blocks, graphics,
return address etc. You see you have the freedom to be as creative as
you wish.

> while a page 
> has attributes inherently absent from an envelope (like numbering).  The 
> Insert|Envelope wizard, OTOH, does define a proper envelope style class, 
> but I can't figure out its connection to the Envelope page style.

The "wizard" is nothing more than a built in feature that adds an
envelope to your letter etc. When you File|Wizard|Letter and then
Insert|Envelope it calls the Envelope style to create the envelope for
the letter. When you open a basic Writer document and File|Insert
Envelope, you get a new page above the document to include an envelope.
In those cases it also adds an return address and address to block.
You can modify the envelope, or say a #10, by clicking on the envelope
*page* and selecting Format|Page. The "wizard" uses the Envelope style
to create the page.

If you wish to dig further, then I'd suggest downloading source code &
exploring from there. I doubt that you'll find anyone else on the OOo
users list that will bother to dig further. Sorry.





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