Not sure I understand your question and I don't understand John's response, so that might indicate I'm off base here. But just in case I'm not, see inline:
In news:[email protected], John Kaufmann <[email protected]> typed: > [This is a third attempt in two weeks at a question that > has so far had no responses - I don't know whether because > I ask questions poorly or because others are as clueless as > I am on such questions. If the former: my questions may > seem long, because I do a lot of homework before asking a > question, and try to lay out the background in a systematic > way. However, I'm open to suggestion on how to ask > questions more efficiently; meanwhile, I try again, from > yet another angle.] > (1) What is the point of the envelope style? Where is the envelope "style" found? I just looked at "all styles" and none are for envelopes. It makes sense that there may be one though. Can you tell me how to get to the "envelope style"? According to > the Stylist, the page style becomes "Envelope" after an > envelope is formed from the Insert|Envelope wizard Correct. Insert; Envelop should also open a dialog window where in one of its tabs you can set things such as return/recipient address, database info and either add the envelope to the document or create just the envelope. Then in the second tab, Format, you have the dimensions and location of the envelope within the scope of the paper size you're using. Then the third tab is for your printer, which way to place the invelope into the tray, and any offset you might need to use to tweak the position. OO.o used a strange methodology for setting up its envelopes so it takes a little study as to how to use the dimensions and offsets; it's not very intuitive and nowhere near as simple as referencing it to the top-left of the page and then dimension it. See the Documentation entries at OO.o for more on envelopes. - but > the page style apparently has no connection to what was > defined in the Envelope wizard. I -think- what you mean here is what I meant above when I said OO.o has a completely different, non-user-friendly way of creating envelopes. It does seem like it's not related at all and gives what seems to be pretty odd results. It's frustrating and quite annoying to try to design envelopes for anything but the #10 sample exactly as presented. Change ANYthing about it, and it seems to go all to hell on you. > > (2) Where should the envelope size be set? - In the > Envelope page style, the Envelope wizard Format tab, or the > Printer tab (Setup->Advanced), or ... ? IMO, in the dialog box that opens when you tdo an Insert; Envelope. Another crummy part of this is that you may also have to change your printer paper size temporarily in order to print an envelope because some of the dimensional references for envelopes, I noticed, seem to be to the bottom of the sheet and not the top. I can't find it right now, but there are one or two papers that have been written on how to design for the various size envelopes including face-up/face-down, left, right, centered in the tray and all the rest of it. I can't find the link now but I know they exist; perhaps a post specifically asking for them would work the best. I now have the varous envelopes I need so I know if I tried to explain it I'd screw it up, so better you should go to the horse's mouth for the information. Sorry. This problem with envelopes has been in OO.o Writer since day one and for whatever reason, no one in the design arena seems to want to tackle fixing it. IMO it's a totally unacceptable thing to allow to continue to exist, but I guess they figure it's not important enough to bother with yet. When it might be time is anyone's guess as it comes up over and over here. Meanwhile, maybe one of these links will help you out: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide/Printing_envelopes http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/tutorial/Print_An_Envelope.html http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Writer/Printing/How_to_print_an_envelope_with_OpenOffice.org http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/category_index/wordprocessing.html The above are all from the first page of a Google Search; you'll get a lot of hits with writer design envelopes There's gotta be something useful there unless someone can pipe up with the precise links. Once more, I'm not aware of an "envelope style" beyond the settings you get when you click Insert; Envelope. I'd love to know how you get to them so I can take a look at it. HTH, Twayne` > The various references - the Help, the wiki Writer Guide > <http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Printing_envelopes>, > and the wiki FAQ > oo<http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Writer/Printing/How_to_print_an_envelope_with_OpenOffice.org> > - all have different answers to these questions, none > apparently completely correct. (Neither of the wiki sources > even mentions the Envelope style; that is from the Help.) For what should > be a routine operation, this is crazy. Can > anyone clarify? > John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
