I've been examining the structure of the files. I'm going to try to write a script or a program to re-write the text file with the offensive thesaurus synonyms omitted. For example, if a student enters (I don't mean to offend) "shit", the thesaurus should offer "excrement" or "feces", but not "crap" or "poop" as synonyms. I'm not sure I'll be able to do this and I'll probably have a few questions, but I'm going to try. I apologize for getting the list so off-topic. I should have asked a more focused question.
Thanks for your help. Craig On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 20:20 -0500, G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 13:07 -0600, Craig Herman wrote: > > OK. I'll try. But I don't have any estimate of when I will finish. > > > > Craig > > > > Thanks. > > In the meantime I have asked the project which maintains the thesaurus > the following: > > > > Any chance a bowlderized or cleaned up thesaurus existing now. I ask > > because a school teacher has encountered a problem with the thesaurus > > that is distributed where the f-word in its many forms is offered as a > > synonym. > > > > Failing that how to clean up easily? > > > Hope we get a definitive answer. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: G. Roderick Singleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:49 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: Craig Herman > > Subject: RE: [users] Profanity in the dictionary and thesaurus > > > > > > Craig, > > > > For an interim solution, I suggest that you remove/dusable the thesaurus at > > least until you can edit the file and get a working one. You can do this by > > removing the line > > THES en US th_en_US_v2 > > from <wherever>/openoffice.org2.0/share/dict/ooo/dictionary.lst > > > > On my system, simply commenting out the line and restarting OOo is > > sufficient. > > > > Good luck on Bowlderizing. > > > > Do try this by editing both th_en_US_v2.dat and th_en_US_v2.idx for > > your list of banned words. > > > > If you are successful, perhaps you could donate these to the project so > > others may avoid the problem you are having. If you like I will create an > > issue to which you can attach the files. > > > > > > On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 11:17 -0600, Craig Herman wrote: > > > Type "mishandle" and look at the fourth term from the bottom. It > > > gives "f**k up" as a synonym. That was the real problem that I had. > > > On the other hand, if you type "f**k up" and look up a synonym in the > > > thesaurus, it gives good suggestions as alternates. I guess that > > > makes it sort of even. I checked MS Word. If you misspell "f**k", it > > > marks it as incorrect. If you look up "f**k" or "f**k up", it gives > > > no suggestions. What would be better is to not give "f**k up" as a > > > synonym, but to give synonyms for "f**k up" if asked. After checking > > > further, look up "motherf**ker" and see what you get. > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Robert Volke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:15 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: RE: [users] Profanity in the dictionary and thesaurus > > > > > > > > > The only instance I'd see this being an issue for a school would be if > > > you typed in botch and you got f*ck up suggested as a synonym. I > > > checked and in fact f*ck up is not suggested at all. The only > > > instance in which it comes up is if the user types it, and in that > > > case it suggests synonyms. Why shouldn't the software offer the kids > > > nice alternatives to otherwise nasty words? Isn't this your original > > > concern anyway? If the kids already know the word enough to spell it > > > correctly, then I think censoring the dictionary is going to be > > > fruitless. That's my two cents. Good luck with the distribution, > > > personally I hope more schools begin using OpenOffice as I think they > > > can benefit the most from its use. > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > >>> "Craig Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/18/05 8:04 AM >>> > > > I'm not necessarily trying to be a censor. What I was really concerned > > > about was being forced to remove OpenOffice.org from the computers in > > > my classroom because of those words. I looked them up in a school > > > dictionary and they were there also, so I doubt it will be an issue. > > > However, I still think a user should have the ability to remove or add > > > words and/or phrases from the dictionary and thesaurus if they want > > > to. > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Wangshanpo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:29 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [users] Profanity in the dictionary and thesaurus > > > > > > > > > Martin S wrote: > > > > 2005/11/18, Craig Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > >> The word f**k and the expression "f**k up" are in the dictionary > > > >> and > > > > > > >> thesaurus. Is it possible to remove these? I have tried, but I have > > > > > > >> been unsuccessful. I would like to use these at my school, but with > > > > > > >> these words in the dictionary, I don't think that will be possible. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > Interesting. > > > > My sons school has a policy against profanity in school. However, no > > > > > > > one has ever come up with the idea of censoring the Word > > > dictionaries. > > > > Children pick up these words weather you like or not, so it's fairly > > > > > > > pointless in trying to censor dictionaries. And if they still use > > > them > > > > in texts, they might as well spell them correctly. > > > > > > > > Personally I'd be very reluctant to start practicing censorship - > > > > you > > > > > > > never know where it ends. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Martin S > > > > > > > > > > > Craig asked a very simple function/operation related question but see > > > how it ferreted out those whose moral judgement is evidently better than > > > the rest. > > > Intriguing! > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
