mike scott wrote:
On 10 Sep 2006 at 2:18, Ross Johnson wrote:
mike scott wrote:
Not my day :-(
1. If I have a manual page break immediately before a table of, say,
contents, how do I delete it? The only way I've found is to delete and
recreate the ToC. Playing with 'edit paragraph style' and the text
flow for the table doesn't do a lot.
2. If I've inserted a manual page break, how do I change its settings -
in particular the page number for the next page? The only way I've
found is to delete and recreate it -- but this is irritating, falls
foul of (1) above and assumes one can remember its properties from when
it was created (afaict there's no way to read them once it exists).
These two probably have the same answer - in OOo the manual page break
is a paragraph attribute.
Put the cursor somewhere in (e.g. at the start of) the first paragraph
on the page. Now go to Format - Paragraph and go to the Text Flow tab in
the dialog. There you will find the Breaks section.
For your first question, I think unchecking the Insert box will do what
you want.
Ok, thanks, that sorts out the plain text case - the 'break' properties
"belonging" to the paragraph /after/ the break.
But it doesn't help
with a ToC. Into my test document: I insert a manual page break,
specifying 'default' style, and a weird page number. Then I immediately
insert a table of contents. If I right-click inside the ToC, I can try
"edit para style" -- but the "Breaks" check box is clear, even though
there's a break. Also the main menu Format list has most options
greyed out (including paragraph).
Yes, I see this now too, but I've found the explanation. The default
setting for inserted indexes is "Protected against manual changes". If
you right-click in the TOC and go to Edit Index/Table (Index/Table tab),
you can uncheck this attribute. Then, when you go to Format Paragraph
(Text Flow tab) for the first paragraph on the page (say, the TOC "Table
of Contents" heading paragraph), you should be able to uncheck the Break
- Insert box to remove the manual break, etc.
Something else that may not be obvious until you see it:- If you insert
an index at start of a paragraph, such as that inserted for the manual
break, then that paragraph becomes the first paragraph of the index. If
the index is not inserted at the start of a paragraph, it starts a new
paragraph below, possibly splitting the paragraph at the point it was
inserted, although, usually the index would be inserted at the start or
end of a paragraph.
For question (2), check the With Page Style box (the Insert box should
already be checked), then select the page number that you want. You can
change the page style here as well if you want to.
Thanks - that's obvious now :-) I'm wondering if I was confused and
checking the wrong paragraph's properties.
I wonder, btw, if it's worth a mention in the help file about which
para "owns" the break and its properties.
You can always see the current page number in the status bar.
Which isn't right, btw. My present test document - two pages of
landscape A5 with a manual break to 'play with' has a 'page number'
field in each page within the half-dozen or so lines. Those fields
show, correctly, 1 and 5. The status bar shows either '1/3' or 'Page 5
3/3', depending on which of the two pages I'm in. If I delete the
break, I get page 1/1. Wierd! (I've looked in the xml at this point -
there just may be a bug indicated somewhere here, and I'll have another
look in the week. Something of a diversion though; and also I see the
fact of a 'break' seems to belong to the para /before/ the break, and
the new page number to that just /after/ )
Hmm. I'll have to try this to see what it's about.
Ross
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