On Sun, 2006-10-29 at 19:56 +0300, Kirill S. Palagin wrote:
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> > Subject: Re: [users] OpenOffice ROCKS: was: Re: Openoffice suck
> > Once OO is loaded to shmfs on ram, all subsequent loads of OO 
> > is almost instantaneous. I don't understand where you are 
> 
> First of all, cold start is as important as start from cache, because
> cold start is first experience the user gets.

I completely agree with you. First impression is EXTREMELY important and
this needs attention in OO. I mostly use Staroffice 8.0 and I have
observed that its start time after cold boot is lesser than the
corresponding start time of OO. I have no idea what Sun is doing to
achieve this.

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> Secondly, even for warm OO start to be fast you have to have fast CPU,
> because it is not just disk access what affects it.

I would still argue that that large ram significantly affects warm OO
startup time. Disk access is orders of magnitude slower than memory
access. The difference between startup time on a fast CPU and a slow CPU
should not be orders of magnitude different.
> 
> > getting this "MSO on Windows starts faster than OO in Linux" 
> > stuff from. I tested it on my
> > 2.5 year old machine and OO takes about 2 seconds to load.
> 
> Fast hardware compensates lack of optimization?

Stating the obvious: eventually with limited developer cycles available
for OO development, I think spending more time adding features is more
important than reorganizing the OO code so that it becomes more
efficient. From a business perspective, getting the product to a point
where it is feature compatible with MSO is significantly more important
for SUN than optimizing code. Though this sounds short sighted, I guess
this fits into the current thinking in the industry "Don't fix if it
ain't broken". Bottom line, when one is making a business decision, I
guess fast hardware does compensate for lack of optimization, at least
for the time being. 

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> Not everybody can afford the latest and greatest. 

Does SUN consider this group a source of revenue from support etc. I
don't think so and hence the lack of attention.

-G

PS: though OO is open source, I believe sun invests a lot of developer
resources into this project to do what is good for their business. 

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