Hi Barbara;
Thanks for the interest in this problem.
On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 23:31 -0500, Barbara Duprey wrote:
> William Case wrote:
> > Hi Barbara;
> >
> > On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 21:57 -0500, Barbara Duprey wrote:
> >
> >> William Case wrote:
> >>
> >
> >
> >> Are you actually pulling up the "Applied Styles" subset of the various
> >> style types, using the dropdown selection at the bottom of the list?
> >> Those would seem to work as you'd like, except that you have to first
> >> select whether you are looking for a page, paragraph, or character
> >> style. You might need to go to "Custom Styles" if you want one of yours
> >> that isn't currently in use in the document. The situation you describe
> >> is more what I'd expect from the "Automatic" or "All" selection.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I will reconstruct my speeches template. It needs some changes in any
> > case, and see if I can get the Applied Styles to work the way you
> > suggest. Right now it is giving me far too many unused style options.
I just spent a couple of hours re-building my speeches template. It
really shouldn't have taken that long but I thought I would use the time
to experiment with the various styles I use. As well, I decided to make
some new font choices and line spacing, margins etc. to get a more
accurate word count/timing per page etc.
I did run into two problems that are worth looking at.
I opened two documents; one blank to be the new template and another
that contained a finished speech and ran them side by side. I wrote a
new set of styles based on the ones I had already been using -- saving
or changing as I went. When I finished I reduced my new template to a
set of 3 or 4 ΒΆ (pilcrow) signs so that only the styles remained. I
saved the template and reopened.
I found the following:
1. The 'Apply Style' control contained
Clear Formatting ... [OK]
Default ............ [OK]
Heading ............ [n/a]
Heading 1 .......... [n/a]
Heading 2 .......... [n/a]
Heading 3 .......... [n/a]
Speech Body ........ [custom]
Speech Header2 ..... [custom]
Speech Title ....... [custom]
Text body .......... [n/a]
More... ........... [OK]
Those marked OK weren't put there by anything I did, but appear to be
standard enough. n/a are not styles I used or created. I have double
checked that none of them are included in my custom styles organizer as
'next' or 'link'. Speeches do not use Headings.
My 'Custom Styles' shows only my truly self-created/modified styles.
They are Speech Body, Speech Header, Speech Header2 and Speech Title .
Speech Header is not part of the Template but I created it for those
speeches that need a dateline etc.
'Applied' shows Speech Body, Speech Header2 and Speech Title
> You might check the "Custom Styles" list, too. If you use only your own
> custom styles for a particular document type, that may actually amount
> to the "group" you're after.
Yes it almost does. Cross checking with Applied gives me an even fuller
list. I would still like to be able to have some styles of my choosing
that are not part of the template showing in the "Apply Style" control.
But I must admit it is becoming reduced to a matter of my own personal
quirks.
> If there are some standard ones that you
> use as well, you could duplicate them under another name and apply those
> custom styles as necessary, to get the right group. But if "Applied
> Styles" is showing something you don't think you're using, that's an
> indication that it really is being used somewhere in the document.
I have double checked that there are no loose pilcrows, nexts or links.
> If it
> truly is not, you may have found a bug. Maybe you could store an example
> somewhere on the web for us to look at (actually, I think attachments of
> ODF file types make it through the filters onto the list).
>
Page numbering also gave me a problem. I was able to insert a page
number normally and was able to change the start-of-count number in Text
Flow successfully. But I wanted to do something a bit different that I
finally got working but was a bit of a hack.
Instead of putting the page number in the right side of the header I
wanted to put the time in minutes each page should take so that speaker
can judge how long he/she has gone on compared to the allotted time.
I.e. min. ... 0 on the top of the first page, min. ... 1 on the top of
the second and so on.
I could set the text flow for the Speech Header to 0 but the page #
field would only display starting with 1. By going to Ctrl+F2, or
Insert => Fields => Other and offsetting by -1 I finally got it to work.
This post is probably more than you wanted to read, but it did give me
an opportunity to double check my setup.
--
Regards Bill
Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.3, OO.o 2.4.1,
Evo.2.22.3.1, Emacs 22.2.1
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