Ok, now I understand, so what do we need to get the power management configured 
and working? 

Regards 
Jose 

----- Mensagem original -----

De: "Shu Ming" <[email protected]> 
Para: "Tim Hildred" <[email protected]> 
Cc: [email protected] 
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 18 de Março de 2013 5:18:28 
Assunto: Re: [Users] High Availability 

Tim Hildred: 
>> If one host is down because of network interrupt or power 
>> failure, the engine should know how many HA VMs are down and find 
>> out the VM images on the storage domain to start the VM instances on 
>> another host in the cluster. Why do we need power manager to be 
>> configured? 
> Power management allows the Manager to start highly available virtual 
> machines on new hosts without worrying that virtual machine hard disk images 
> will be corrupted. 
> 
> Imagine a situation in which the Manager cannot communicate with the host a 
> highly available virtual machine is running on. If the host is still running 
> as expected, and the virtual machine is also still running, the virtual 
> machine is writing to its hard disk image. 
Tim, 

Thanks for clarification. That is what I expected. 

> 
> If the Manager starts that virtual machine on another host in the cluster, 
> then both virtual machine instances will try and write to the disk image, and 
> cause hard disk corruption. 
> 
> Power management lets the Manager be sure that only one instance of the 
> highly available virtual machine is running, because the instance on the host 
> the Manager couldn't communicate cannot survive a host reboot. 
> 
> Tim Hildred, RHCE 
> Content Author II - Engineering Content Services, Red Hat, Inc. 
> Brisbane, Australia 
> Email: [email protected] 
> Internal: 8588287 
> Mobile: +61 4 666 25242 
> IRC: thildred 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Shu Ming" <[email protected]> 
>> To: "Tim Hildred" <[email protected]> 
>> Cc: [email protected], [email protected] 
>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 1:31:12 PM 
>> Subject: Re: [Users] High Availability 
>> 
>> 
>> Tim, 
>> 
>> Thanks for your information. I am not sure why we need power 
>> management to be configured for the hosts running HA virtual 
>> machines. We only need a method to check the VM or host status and 
>> a method to restart the VM instances with existing VM images on 
>> another host. Is it required to force powering down the failing host 
>> forever to make sure the failing host will not come back to live 
>> again? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> * 
>> Power management must be configured for the hosts running the highly 
>> available virtual machines. 
>> * 
>> The host running the highly available virtual machine must be part of 
>> a cluster which has other available hosts. 
>> * 
>> The destination host must be running. 
>> * 
>> The source and destination host must have access to the data domain 
>> on which the virtual machine resides. 
>> * 
>> The source and destination host must have access to the same virtual 
>> networks and VLANs. 
>> * 
>> There must be enough CPUs on the destination host that are not in use 
>> to support the virtual machine's requirements. 
>> * 
>> There must be enough RAM on the destination host that is not in use 
>> to support the virtual machine's requirements. 
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Hildred: 
>> 
>> 
>> You might also find this helpful: 
>> https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtualization/3.1/html/Administration_Guide/High_availability_considerations.html
>>  
>> The topics before and after it explain a bit more about high 
>> availability. 
>> 
>> Tim Hildred, RHCE 
>> Content Author II - Engineering Content Services, Red Hat, Inc. 
>> Brisbane, Australia 
>> Email: [email protected] Internal: 8588287 
>> Mobile: +61 4 666 25242 
>> IRC: thildred 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> 
>> From: "Dafna Ron" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: 
>> [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:46:51 AM 
>> Subject: Re: [Users] High Availability 
>> 
>> I think that there is some confusion here so I will explain what are 
>> the 
>> configurations for fail-over. 
>> 
>> power management will reboot your host if a connectivity issue is 
>> detected so all your vm's will be killed. 
>> resilience policy will allow you to choose vm migration policy during 
>> a 
>> host failure and its configured in the cluster level (clusters -> 
>> select 
>> cluster -> general sub tab -> edit policy) 
>> High Availability is configured only for servers type vm's and what 
>> it 
>> does is re-run the vm in case the pid of the vm is killed (so most 
>> commonly, if you have power management configured, and the host is 
>> rebooted, the vm will start automatically on a different host). 
>> 
>> so it really depends what you want. if you want vm migration than 
>> look 
>> into cluster policy, if you want a specific vm to always be up and 
>> you 
>> don't care about the other vm's than configure power management and a 
>> HA 
>> vm. it really depends on what you need. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 03/17/2013 07:15 PM, [email protected] wrote: 
>> 
>> Is it Mandatory to have power manamement enabled? if yes what 
>> equipment do you recommend to use with it? 
>> 
>> Regards 
>> Jose 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Mensagem original ----- 
>> De: "René Koch" <[email protected]> Para: [email protected] , 
>> [email protected] Enviadas: Domingo, 17 Março, 2013 16:47:41 
>> Assunto: RE: [Users] High Availability 
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> You have to configure power management to make high availability 
>> working and mark the vms high availability checkbox... 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> René 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original message----- 
>> 
>> From:[email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday 17th 
>> March 2013 17:28 
>> To: [email protected] Subject: [Users] High Availability 
>> 
>> What should I need to configure to put HA working? I mean, when a 
>> host broke all the VM automatically move to another host. 
>> Do I need to have Power management enabled? 
>> 
>> Thanks 
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