I pretty much get the impression, we're not talking about the same. That
is, mail server admins versus a general user.
On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 17:00 -0800, John Hardin wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2009, Rops wrote:
> > May it be the result of outgoing and incoming servers being the same??
> > (mail.neti.ee)
Sounds like you mean *your* outgoing and incoming mail servers are the
same. User POV.
What I have pointed out in my previous post are the sending SMTP server
("outgoing" in your Outlook) and the receiving SMTP server aka MX. The
latter is not part of your Outlook config. It is wherever the mail will
end up waiting for the recipient to read it.
On a related note, as I asked in another way before -- where do you send
the email to? Not asking for the full recipients address, but if the
recipients domain is living at the same ISP. Any chance you are sending
either to your own domain, or a domain hosted by the very same ISP?
Also, when you say you are using your ISPs SMTP, and the ISP is
rejecting the messages -- are these the *same*?
There are two different kinds of ISP possible in this context. The
company that provides the Internet line for you. And a hoster where your
domain lives. Both would be valid "ISPs SMTP"...
I guess we need *much* more details about the mail being rejected as
spam. That means full headers, email addresses anonymized.
> > I'd like to ask later from my ISP, but first I need to know what's
> > wrong, as else most likely I'dnt get any reply.
IMHO you should consider asking them now...
*They* are rejecting *your* email, right? Are you sure it is your
"outgoing mail server" that rejects them?
> > The blacklisting is often a problem, as sometimes my messages have been
> > rejected in USA, just because someone of my ISP 500.000 clients has sent
> > spams. Is it ISP to blame and punish with blacklisting, if there may be
> > some bots working?
>
> The ISP's mail servers shouldn't get blacklisted, just the IP addresses
> that ISP assigns to their customers.
It seems that whatever the ISP is -- the triggering IPs are the dial-up
ones. Strange though, that there are 3 different samples of basically
the same issue, if so...
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