On Thu, 29 Oct 2015, Martin Gregorie wrote:

On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 14:19 -0500, j...@lexoncom.com wrote:
I dont use any ham training.Should I scan all my folders with this
command:
sa-learn --ham --mbox /home/username/mail/foldername

YES - if Bayes never gets trained on ham, how do you expect it to
recognise the difference between ham and spam?

Bayes won't start to work until it has seen 200 examples of ham and 200
examples of spam.

Again: *vetted* ham and spam. Don't just blindly throw your inbox at it assuming your inbox is pristine.

"is the bayes-db of this user *realy* used at scan time"
how do i check that?

When its working you'll see BAYES_nn rules firing.

Note BAYES_00 in the report below. The OP is getting ham from *somewhere*. If he's never manually trained ham then it's probably coming from autolearn, and depending on other issues that might have poisoned the database from the start.

example mail sa headers:

X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on
        ip-10-254-37-89.us-west-2.compute.internal
X-Spam-Level: ***
X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.1 required=5.0
tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE,
        RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100,RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100,RAZOR2_C
HECK,SPF_HELO_PASS,
        SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,URIBL_DBL_SPAM autolearn=no
autolearn_force=no
        version=3.4.0

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