Thanks for providing me the primer on web applications and Ant and for not
trying to understand what point I am trying to make here.

Yes, we are not dealing with nuclear science here and Yes again wicket is
just another web application, Did someone disagree with that. I hope not.

Once you are out in the market to try the new webapps then it always makes
sense to have people be able to get up and running on the basics w/o efforts
and not to have to deal with tricks necessary to get basic app to work.

A common expectation is a simple standalone app without
Maven/Spring/Hibernate etc unnecessary stuff. Run 'ant' on the command line
and here u have the war file, now,  make a few changes to experiment and
then run 'ant' again to have modified war. Simple.

Obviously the current example is for the comfort of wicket creators and not 
for the comfort of prospective users and that is the problem here.

Any one with basic common sense will get this up and running after a day's
tinkering around,  but that can be avoided by adding simple things here in
the examples, that is the point I am trying to sell here only if there are
buyers out there with open mind.


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Al Maw wrote:
> 
> chickabee wrote:
>> Thanks for the great idea. 
> 
> Note that this is displayed fairly prominently on the web site at 
> http://wicket.apache.org under "QuickStart".
> 
>> It believe it will be good to put a few of the  examples application in
>> their own folders and war files so that they can be studied independently
>> without the clutter of 20 projects.
> 
> We used to have this, however, grouping all the examples into one 
> project has several big advantages:
> 
>   - Getting all the examples running in your IDE is much easier.
>   - We don't have ten extra projects to manage the build files for.
>   - We can easily link to all the examples from a single page.
> 
>> Another thing I notice is that maven is  the default build tool used for
>> wicket, I guess it will be good to provide the ant build.xml, just in
>> case
>> someone does not want full maven features.
> 
> I think we need to write a page on this on the web site that we can send 
> people to. ;-)
> 
> An Ant build for Wicket isn't special. If you don't know how to use Ant, 
> it's not our job to show you. There are no magic custom Ant tasks we 
> provide, or JSP pre-compilation steps, or anything like that. All you 
> need is to compile your app with the necessary dependencies, just like 
> any other Java app. You'll also need your web.xml, etc. just like any 
> other Java web app. Nothing special here.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Al
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