+1
Martijn Dashorst wrote:
> On 5/1/08, Andrew Broderick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The guy asked a simple question.
> 
> And I answered it is a simple manner: read the javadoc, if that
> doesn't help you, tell us what is wrong. All condensed in a single
> question. You chose to read it as a RTFM. Did you ever read [1]?
> 
>> If there's one fault with this otherwise great mailing list, it's the 
>> attitude that
>> the old-timers have towards the newbies.
> 
> WTF? Why is it so hard to actually use the stuff we have provided? We
> write javadoc, we have a wiki, we are writing a book, spend a lot of
> our free time working on wicket related stuff, including answering
> questions on this list. There is no payment for us in all of this (if
> you think that the book will bring us money, then write your own and
> see if it works out for you)
> 
> Is it then too much to ask that people actually read the javadoc and
> if you don't understand the javadoc, *THEN* ask the question related
> to the javadoc?
> 
>> So, guys, if you want Wicket to attain widespread adoption, please don't 
>> shoot
>> back at anyone who asks a question with a response of RTFM. Take the time
>> to explain stuff.
> 
> users@ had 2186 messages in April, 37% of that traffic came from 10
> people. 4 of them were so-called old-timers, not asking questions but
> helping out. >25% of traffic in April came from core contributors. So
> please don't tell me we are not helping out.
> 
> What do you think the javadoc is for? Do you think we write javadoc to
> increase our commit count? Didn't we already put in the time to
> explain it? Did you consider that the ratio of users asking questions
> that they can answer themselves versus the contributors that actually
> answer is roughly 30 : 1, putting us (the old-timers) at a serious
> disadvantage?
> 
>> (This also contributes to the Wicket knowledge base, as it
>> remains in the list archives, and hence shows up in Google searches).
> 
> Why do you think we write the javadocs? So people can READ them. When
> people don't take the time to actually read the fricking javadoc, what
> does make you think that people will use google, the wiki or the
> mailing list archive?
> 
> Martijn
> 
> [1] http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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