On Apr 13, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:

> Btw, logos are graphical marks and is not mandatory that they are logotypes
> (wordmarks). This means you don't necessarily need to read the name of the
> product from the start (look at apple, volkswagen, audi, sun, etc). After
> you know it's XWiki, you can easily see what proposal 16 states.

I don't agree with this reasoning. Either you use a logo that doesn't mean 
anything (ie it's a symbol, an image, etc) or you have a logo with letters and 
in that case it must be readable.

Even though I know it's about XWiki, I can't even read it...

I don't find the logo that smart. A smart logo is a logo that is simple, 
polished and that be read easily. Cleverness is not usually that good in 
branding since a good portion of people won't understand the clever thing.

Thanks
-Vincent

> 
> The logo should be the identity and feeling of that product. Having a smart
> logo would be nice for us, don't you think?
> Caty
> 
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 13:00, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I think version 16 is the ONLY original logo we have for this challenge.
>> It is abstract enough to make a great brand and be reused for variations.
>> It is simple, straightforward and easily to remember (not to reproduce, to
>> remember that you've seen it before).
>> It's look IMO is perfect for a technical application and community.
>> It's smart, creative and I LOVE IT :)
>> 
>> Go version 16 :)
>> Caty
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:41, Fabio Mancinelli <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 00:41, Ludovic Dubost <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1 for 4A
>>>>> 
>>>>> and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a
>>> missing
>>>>> arm..
>>>>> I can't read XWiki in it..
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'd like to react about this: at this stage I share Ludovic's feeling. I
>>> had
>>>> people from outside the project look at the 16 logo and they weren't
>>> able to
>>>> read "XWiki" in it. I'm afraid that while stylistically interesting,
>>> this
>>>> logo is too unreadable for mainstream use - unless we don't expect
>>> anyone to
>>>> understand the XWiki logo that is.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm feeling pretty close to giving it a -1 too if its readability isn't
>>>> improved. I know I might be going against the flow here but we're about
>>> to
>>>> make a significant choice here and I don't want us to regret it.
>>>> 
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> Guillaume
>>>> 
>>> I share your opinion... Besides the fact that I don't like it because it's
>>> miles away from the "web 2.0" style that I think we tend to.
>>> It would be good if our style was "geeky-oldschool" but I don't think it's
>>> the case.
>>> But this is a personal and questionable opinion.
>>> 
>>> The fact is that me too, at a first glance, I can't read XWiki in it and I
>>> have to make an effort in order to "see" XWiki written in that logo.
>>> 
>>> My 2 cents,
>>> Fabio
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