I disagree!

There isn't a culture on earth in which the traditional unit names have not
survived metrication.  They have done so because people are attached to them
and also because their have been redefined to rounded metric values to make
them more harmonised with metric devices.  Unit names have survived the
times because they were never fixed to exact values but were allowed to
change with the times and whims of the authorities of the times.

As a country or culture metricates, the devices change.  When a device is
calibrated in a metric unit it makes it difficult for someone who uses the
old unit name to relate to the new metric sizes.  Redefining old names to
rounded metric values helps ease the transition.  When a pound is redefined
as 500 g, it may seem to some the old system is still here, but it isn't.
It is just the name that has survived.

If you don't make the change in value to the old names you will find a lot
of resentment to the metric system.  Because people will find it hard to
work with the odd numbers of the old meanings and the devices that are
calibrated strictly in SI units.  People in Europe who may still use names
like livre, pond, pfund, libre, etc. don't feel confused when they go to the
market and see only a scale with a metric display.  They know that when they
ask for something by the old unit name, they can easily see what they are
getting on a scale not calibrated in the old unit when the old name refers
to a rounded number in metric.

I'm sure some will insist that leaving the old names as they are will
facilitate their demise.  I disagree.  It will only breed bitterness and
resentment towards metric.  Because the old unit names have changed value
and in most cases had varying values depending on location makes it easier
and less drastic if these unit names change again.

I realise that the people of the US and UK think they are something special
and that there is something special about their version of ancient unit
names and for this reason it is unthinkable that they be altered, especially
to conform with what some would consider the measurements of "inferior"
nations.  But they are not special and neither are their units.

I just wonder how much faster the kilogram would have been accepted if
people were taught in the beginning to think of a pound as 500 g and giving
the green light for shops to dole out 500 g amounts when a pound was
requested.  By this time, I believe the need to add pound pricing to ads
would have vanished and people in Canada would be having a market experience
similar to what is seen everywhere else.  Keeping the old unit definitions
with odd conversions to SI is one of main the reason Canada hasn't fully
moved to SI and is stuck in the middle.

Euric





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John S. Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, 2004-02-20 22:42
Subject: [USMA:28834] Let's not go backwards!


> A common theme on this list is to redefine traditional units to new
metricated
> sizes, like the messages in current thread advocating redefining cups to
250
> ml, or previous suggestions to redefine a pound as 500 g.
>
> I think this goes 100% contrary to the goals of the USMA.  Possibly the
> greatest defect of traditional measures is that they have different sizes
in
> different places and contexts.  Redefining them doesn't make this problem
> better - it makes it worse.  All old documents, measuring devices,
recipes,
> etc. will still all be referring to the older definition, while newer
> measuring devices and documents may (or may not) refer to the new
definition.
> But the different sizes will have the same name.  The result is chaos!
>
> The solution is to use modern metric measures.  Grams.  Kilograms.
> Milliliters.
>
>

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