Dear Mike,

All of our train services here in Geelong, Australia, have 24 hour departure
and arrival times.

Cheers,

Pat Naughtin
PO Box 305 Belmont 3216
Geelong, Australia
61 3 5241 2008

Pat Naughtin is manager of http://www.metricationmatters.com an internet
website that focuses on the many issues, methods and processes that
individuals, groups, companies, and nations use when upgrading to the metric
system. Contact Pat Naughtin at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On 2007 03 16 4:10 PM, "Mike Millet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A bit off topic here but do any countries actually use the 24 hour format in
> their day to day activities? I have heard it referenced on the BBC site but
> especially in the US and Canada the only time 24 hour format is used is in
> conjunction with military time and military operations. Do countries exist
> where people actually list the time as meeting at 13:30 etc? I've never heard
> anyone that I've met from the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, France, and
> a couple other countries  ever reference it.  Not meaning to be  rude just
> curious :). 
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 3/15/07, Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> CDMA is actually more efficient with spectrum usage.  But I find battery life
>> of CDMA phones to be less than GSM counterparts.  I also hate the lack of a
>> SIM card in CDMA phones.  CDMA phones have traditionally lagged GSM phones in
>> technology adoption like Bluetooth, etc...
>> 
>> Europe just got together and agreed on a standard and moved forward.  Most
>> rest of world countries copied Europe with GSM.   Whereas in the United
>> States, we let the markets decide.
>> 
>> Which is silly to me because you have very redundant network build outs.   So
>> in any one area, you have AT&T Wireless/Cingular TDMA then GSM,
>> Voicestream/T-
>> Mobile GSM, Sprint CDMA, Verizon CDMA and Nextel iDEN.
>> 
>> Actually Verizon choosing CDMA was something of a big deal.  Verizon was
>> partially owned by Vodafone, the European provider.  They obviously pushed
>> for GSM.  Verizon had some deal with Qualcomm going (they rule CDMA) and
>> that's where they went.  Vodaphone over time got rid of their investment in
>> Verizon.
>> 
>> What sucked about Cingular buying AT&T Wireless was that really, that should
>> have been Vodafone's deal.  (I could have gotten that Ferrari or McLaren
>> branded cell phone right?)   So the United States really should have had
>> three GSM providers (Cingular, Vodafone and T-Mobile)....but alas, due to
>> some shrewd dealings, the deal was given to Cingular.  Do some searches on
>> the deal, it was pretty sketchy.
>> 
>> Nothing metric, but everything to do with the mindset of being different.
>> 
>> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:47:09 -0400, Carleton MacDonald wrote
>>> > Well, there is something related - CDMA is another case of the USA doing
>>> > things differently than 80% of the rest of the world ...
>>> >
>>> > Wonder which is actually better.
>>> >
>>> > Carleton
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>> > Of Michael Payne
>>> > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 23:07
>>> > To: U.S. Metric Association
>>> > Subject: [USMA:38224] RE: Brand New Phone, 12 Hour Time.
>>> >
>>> > Not that this has much to do with metric, but I switched from
>>> > Cingular to T-Mobile just over a year ago and I've found the
>>> > coverage with T-Mobile better using a GSM phone, I also use my phone
>>> > worldwide.
>>> >
>>> > Michael Payne
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Nat Hager III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: "U.S . Metric Association" <[email protected]>
>>> > Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 02:59
>>> > Subject: [USMA:38222] RE: Brand New Phone, 12 Hour Time.
>>> >
>>>>>> > >>> You actually cared about TDMA coverage and left Cingular because of
>>>>>> > >>> that?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Wow, you deserve the 12 hour time then.   hahahaha..   Of course, maybe
>>>> > > I'm
>>>> > > spoiled because I'm in Seattle.  Home of both AT&T Wireless (before
>>>> > > Cingular
>>>> > > bought them) and T-Mobile.
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >
>>>> > > You bet.  In 2005 Cingular GSM coverage was only slightly better than
>>>> > > T-Mobile, in 2004 it was experimental on the weaker 1900 MHz band only,
my 
>>>> > > phone switched to TDMA half the time.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Nat
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>> 
> 
> 


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