Eugene,
I could probably live with what you are suggesting.  My comment was directed to 
the actual recommendations of the NCWM to FTC.  Quoting the first two 
paragraphs of recommendation #5 (it is much longer, note that I added the 
bolding):
5. While the FPLA currently requires net quantity statements to be in both U.S. 
Customary and metric units, we strongly encourage FTC to use enforcement 
discretion to allow optional use of metric unit only net quantity statements.
Federal policy states that the metric system is the preferred system of weights 
and measures for commerce in the United States (15 U.S.C. 205b). In 1992, the 
Fair Package and Labeling Act was amended to require that International System 
of Units (also recognized as SI units or metric units) as well as the customary 
inch/pound system of measure be present in the required label declaration of 
net quantity of contents of consumer commodities. This requirement to use units 
from two different measurement systems is globally unique and results in 
increased complexity for both consumers and manufacturers both inside and 
outside the U.S. We strongly encourage FTC to adopt policies which support the 
continued transition to metric only net quantity requirements in the U.S.

To me, that is clearly recommending that the FTC allow permissive metric only 
by ignoring the law as written by Congress.  As I said, I believe it is 
necessary to fix, not ignore, the law and agencies can add details in rules but 
MUST "color within the lines."  They are bound by the underlying law, not 
turned loose to do as they wish.



________________________________
 From: "mechtly, eugene a" <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:58 PM
Subject: [USMA:54243] RE: FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST
 


JOHN, 

IT IS TRUE that the current FPLA  *REQUIRES* duality; declarations of net 
amounts in SI UNITS and equivalent declarations in units from outside the SI, 
either displayed in first place.

However, there is no requirement in the FPLA that enforcement be in any 
particular units of measurement.
 

A decision by the FTC to require that enforcement of "amounts of fill" be 
entirely based on the metric declarations, would be entirely within the 
provisions of the current FPLA.

The requirement for "duality" of declarations would be retained, at least until 
Congress amends the FPLA to permit metric-only declarations.

where do you get the notion that "discretionary enforcement" of the FPLA means 
that some parts of the law are enforced and other parts of the law are ignored? 
 or that enforcement is applied to some packagers or products and not to others?

Enforcement of the FPLA must not be confused with selective actions of the IRS! 


Eugene Mechtly


________________________________
 
From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of John M. 
Steele [[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 2:35 PM
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:54240] RE: FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST


Just an example
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-immigration-executive-orders-could-force-showdown-101209067--politics.html



________________________________
 From: Patrick Moore <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:17 AM
Subject: [USMA:54238] RE: FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST


I call foul. The snipe about our president is contrary to fact and, more 
significantly here, off topic.

[End]

From: "John M. Steele" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: "John M. Steele" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 5:43 AM
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [USMA:54236] RE: FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST

I used the phrase "selective enforcement" which treat some differently from 
others -- that's the risk.  They used the term "discretionary enforcement" 
which means enforce the parts of the law you like and not the parts of the law 
you don't like.  Anyway, the
 law requires dual.  Omitting the Customary violates the law.  The solution is 
to fix the law, not arbitrarily decide to ignore the law.

I suppose it might be within FTC's discretion to only use the metric 
declaration to test for shortfill instead of testing against the larger 
declaration.  But I don't see how they could ignore a missing Customary 
declaration and claim they are enforcing the
 law, as written, which is their duty.  It might, however, be perfectly clear 
to President Obama, who has taken a position that he will ignore any law he 
doesn't like and do as he wished.  Perhaps "there is no law" will become the 
law of the land (for leaders,
 not us peons).  I remain completely opposed to the concept of discretionary 
enforcement vs enforcing the written law.  If I oppose some forms of 
discretionary enforcement, I have to oppose them all -- even on things I want.

________________________________
From: "mechtly, eugene a" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:01 PM
Subject: [USMA:54234] RE: FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST

John (Steele),

I read "Selective Enforcement" to mean using *only the declarations in metric 
units* for enforcement decisions, not to mean the discretion to inspect some 
packages and not other packages.  No laws would be violated!

Declarations in units from outside the SI would be *excluded* as the basis for 
enforcement decisions.  The current FPLA specifies that the larger declared 
amount (in SI or not-SI) be used for inspections.

Of course, overstatements of net amounts in packages would have to be 
prohibited, when expressed in those other units from outside the SI.

"Maximum Allowed Variations" (MLV) as prescribed in the NIST Handbooks,
would apply to the metric declarations, and "understatements" (if only in the 
third decimal place) of net amounts would be required for declarations in the 
non-SI units.

A ruling by the FTC for enforcement of only the metric declarations can be 
fully compliant with the current FPLA if all other declarations are required to 
be understated.

Eugene Mechtly


________________________________
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:26 PM
To: mechtly, eugene a
Cc: USMA
Subject: Re: [USMA:54204] FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST

Thanks, Gene!

Let's hope the FTC does the right thing and issues that ruling. What a great 
step forward that would be. (And too bad for the FMI, eh?  ;-)

Ezra

________________________________
From: "eugene a mechtly" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "USMA" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:41:47 PM
Subject: [USMA:54204] FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST



Eugene Mechtly
________________________________
From: Butcher, Kenneth S. 
[[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 8:27 AM
To: mechtly, eugene a
Cc: Gentry, Elizabeth; Hockert, Carol; Warfield, Lisa; Sefcik, David; 
'[email protected]<mailto:'[email protected]>'; Mark Henschel 

Subject: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST

Mr. Mechtly

Attached is a PDF of the comments the National Conference on Weights and 
Measures submitted to the FTC regarding their regulatory review of the Fair 
Packaging and Labeling Act (FPLA) that you requested.  Please see comment 
Number 5 which encourages FTC to consider
 allowing metric only labeling under its rulemaking authority.  NIST worked 
closely with the NCWM to prepare and submit the comments.  The FTC was already 
well aware that both the NIST and the NCWM have supported voluntary metric only 
labeling since 1999 when
 the Uniform Packaging and Labeling Regulation in NIST Handbook 130 was 
amended. This URL will take you to the NIST Handbook 130: 
http://www.nist.gov/pml/wmd/pubs/hb130-14.cfm This URL will take you to the 
proposed amendment to FPLA to permit metric only label: 
http://www.nist.gov/pml/wmd/metric/pack-lab.cfm.   Copies of both publications 
have been given to FTC.

Ken Butcher
National Institute of Standards and Technology
Office of Weights and Measures

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