Yes, it does look like NCWM and NIST are asking the FTC to give a wink and a 
nod to US companies that they do not have to fear any consequences from using 
metric-only labeling. 

However, no government has all the resources to enforce all the laws with 
maximum vigor nor do we have enough courts and judges or jails and jailers to 
prosecute and punish all violators of any law. So, purposeful discretion in 
enforcement is the only alternative to random, sloppy, or haphazard 
enforcement. 

The reason I like this idea is that, if US companies believe it and actually 
start producing metric-only labels on all kinds of products, we will get to see 
how the public reacts to this. And if the result from the public is something 
between a yawn and enthusiastic acceptance (as I suspect it will be), this will 
completely undercut the arguments of the FMI against permitting metric-only 
labeling in the law. 

Under a future Democratic Congress I'm sure a suitable amendment backed by 
NIST, NCWM, and the FTC as well as the data from this "experiment" in 
metric-only labeling will be approved without much fuss or bother. At that 
point the discretionary enforcement will end and no one will notice any 
difference. ;-) 

Ezra 

----- Original Message -----

From: "John M. Steele" <[email protected]> 
To: "USMA" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:00:23 PM 
Subject: [USMA:54246] RE: FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST 

Eugene, 
I could probably live with what you are suggesting. My comment was directed to 
the actual recommendations of the NCWM to FTC. Quoting the first two paragraphs 
of recommendation #5 (it is much longer, note that I added the bolding): 
5. While the FPLA currently requires net quantity statements to be in both U.S. 
Customary and metric units, we strongly encourage FTC to use enforcement 
discretion to allow optional use of metric unit only net quantity statements. 
Federal policy states that the metric system is the preferred system of weights 
and measures for commerce in the United States (15 U.S.C. 205b). In 1992, the 
Fair Package and Labeling Act was amended to require that International System 
of Units (also recognized as SI units or metric units) as well as the customary 
inch/pound system of measure be present in the required label declaration of 
net quantity of contents of consumer commodities. This requirement to use units 
from two different measurement systems is globally unique and results in 
increased complexity for both consumers and manufacturers both inside and 
outside the U.S. We strongly encourage FTC to adopt policies which support the 
continued transition to metric only net quantity requirements in the U.S. 

To me, that is clearly recommending that the FTC allow permissive metric only 
by ignoring the law as written by Congress. As I said, I believe it is 
necessary to fix, not ignore, the law and agencies can add details in rules but 
MUST "color within the lines." They are bound by the underlying law, not turned 
loose to do as they wish. 


From: "mechtly, eugene a" <[email protected]> 
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:58 PM 
Subject: [USMA:54243] RE: FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST 

JOHN, 

IT IS TRUE that the current FPLA *REQUIRES* duality; declarations of net 
amounts in S I UNITS and equivalent declarations in units from outside the SI, 
either displayed in first place. 

However, there is no requirement in the FPLA that enforcement be in any 
particular units of measurement. 

A decision by the FTC to require that enforcement of "amounts of fill" be 
entirely based on the metric declarations, would be entirely within the 
provisions of the current FPLA. 

The requirement for "duality" of declarations would be retained, at least until 
Congress amends the FPLA to permit metric-only declarations. 

where do you get the notion that "discretionary enforcement" of the FPLA means 
that some parts of the law are enforced and other parts of the law are ignored? 
or that enforcement is applied to some packagers or products and not to others? 

Enforcement of the FPLA must not be confused with selective actions of the IRS! 

Eugene Mechtly 

From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of John M. 
Steele [[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 2:35 PM 
To: U.S. Metric Association 
Subject: [USMA:54240] RE: FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST 


Just an example 
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-immigration-executive-orders-could-force-showdown-101209067--politics.html
 


From: Patrick Moore <[email protected]> 
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:17 AM 
Subject: [USMA:54238] RE: FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST 

I call foul. The snipe about our president is contrary to fact and, more 
significantly here, off topic. 

[End] 

From: "John M. Steele" < [email protected] <mailto: 
[email protected] >> 
Reply-To: "John M. Steele" < [email protected] <mailto: 
[email protected] >> 
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 5:43 AM 
To: "U.S. Metric Association" < [email protected] <mailto: [email protected] 
>> 
Subject: [USMA:54236] RE: FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST 

I used the phrase "selective enforcement" which treat some differently from 
others -- that's the risk. They used the term "discretionary enforcement" which 
means enforce the parts of the law you like and not the parts of the law you 
don't like. Anyway, the law requires dual. Omitting the Customary violates the 
law. The solution is to fix the law, not arbitrarily decide to ignore the law. 

I suppose it might be within FTC's discretion to only use the metric 
declaration to test for shortfill instead of testing against the larger 
declaration. But I don't see how they could ignore a missing Customary 
declaration and claim they are enforcing the law, as written, which is their 
duty. It might, however, be perfectly clear to President Obama, who has taken a 
position that he will ignore any law he doesn't like and do as he wished. 
Perhaps "there is no law" will become the law of the land (for leaders, not us 
peons). I remain completely opposed to the concept of discretionary enforcement 
vs enforcing the written law. If I oppose some forms of discretionary 
enforcement, I have to oppose them all -- even on things I want. 

________________________________ 
From: "mechtly, eugene a" < [email protected] <mailto: [email protected] 
>> 
To: U.S. Metric Association < [email protected] <mailto: [email protected] >> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:01 PM 
Subject: [USMA:54234] RE: FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST 

John (Steele), 

I read "Selective Enforcement" to mean using *only the declarations in metric 
units* for enforcement decisions, not to mean the discretion to inspect some 
packages and not other packages. No laws would be violated! 

Declarations in units from outside the SI would be *excluded* as the basis for 
enforcement decisions. The current FPLA specifies that the larger declared 
amount (in SI or not-SI) be used for inspections. 

Of course, overstatements of net amounts in packages would have to be 
prohibited, when expressed in those other units from outside the SI. 

"Maximum Allowed Variations" (MLV) as prescribed in the NIST Handbooks, 
would apply to the metric declarations, and "understatements" (if only in the 
third decimal place) of net amounts would be required for declarations in the 
non-SI units. 

A ruling by the FTC for enforcement of only the metric declarations can be 
fully compliant with the current FPLA if all other declarations are required to 
be understated. 

Eugene Mechtly 


________________________________ 
From: [email protected] <mailto: [email protected] > [ 
[email protected] <mailto: [email protected] >] 
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:26 PM 
To: mechtly, eugene a 
Cc: USMA 
Subject: Re: [USMA:54204] FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST 

Thanks, Gene! 

Let's hope the FTC does the right thing and issues that ruling. What a great 
step forward that would be. (And too bad for the FMI, eh? ;-) 

Ezra 

________________________________ 
From: "eugene a mechtly" < [email protected] <mailto: [email protected] 
>> 
To: "USMA" < [email protected] <mailto: [email protected] >> 
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:41:47 PM 
Subject: [USMA:54204] FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST 



Eugene Mechtly 
________________________________ 
From: Butcher, Kenneth S. [ [email protected] <mailto: 
[email protected] >] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 8:27 AM 
To: mechtly, eugene a 
Cc: Gentry, Elizabeth; Hockert, Carol; Warfield, Lisa; Sefcik, David; ' 
[email protected] <mailto:' [email protected] >'; Mark Henschel 

Subject: Comments to FTC from the NCWM & NIST 

Mr. Mechtly 

Attached is a PDF of the comments the National Conference on Weights and 
Measures submitted to the FTC regarding their regulatory review of the Fair 
Packaging and Labeling Act (FPLA) that you requested. Please see comment Number 
5 which encourages FTC to consider allowing metric only labeling under its 
rulemaking authority. NIST worked closely with the NCWM to prepare and submit 
the comments. The FTC was already well aware that both the NIST and the NCWM 
have supported voluntary metric only labeling since 1999 when the Uniform 
Packaging and Labeling Regulation in NIST Handbook 130 was amended. This URL 
will take you to the NIST Handbook 130: 
http://www.nist.gov/pml/wmd/pubs/hb130-14.cfm This URL will take you to the 
proposed amendment to FPLA to permit metric only label: 
http://www.nist.gov/pml/wmd/metric/pack-lab.cfm. Copies of both publications 
have been given to FTC. 

Ken Butcher 
National Institute of Standards and Technology 
Office of Weights and Measures 








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