Hi Brian. I have been criticised in the past for owning 6 cars (mostly classic) claiming that I am harming the environment or even the attack of ‘denial’ regarding the subject.
I have had to remind such people that because I have 6 cars only one of them can be driven at once. There’s an answer for you to borrow if you should ever be criticised in a similar manner ;-) > On 17 May 2020, at 11:14 pm, Brian White <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have ten cars, not one of them electric. :) > One 1.5 liter 4 cylinder > One 1.6 liter 4 cylinder > Two 2 liter 4 cylinders > One 2 liter 4 cylinder 16v turbo > One supercharged 3 liter V6 > One 3.4 liter V8 > One 4.2 liter V8 > One 4.4 liter V8 > One 4.8 liter V12 (18.5 liters of oil and 120 liters of fuel) > > >> On May 17, 2020, at 14:59, John Nichols <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Entropy is a wonderful thing >> >> >> From: USMA <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Martin Vlietstra >> Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2020 3:08 PM >> To: 'Michael Payne' <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>; 'USMA List Server' >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Subject: [USMA 1402] Re: Talking to people about metric >> >> One other advantage, particularly in city traffic is regenerative braking. >> When you apply brakes in a petrol-powered car, the energy that you used to >> get up to speed is thrown away, in a vehicle with regenerative braking, it >> is “pumped” back into the battery. >> >> From: USMA [mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Michael Payne >> Sent: 17 May 2020 12:08 >> To: USMA List Server >> Subject: [USMA 1401] Re: Talking to people about metric >> >> Yes, my error, consumption is in kWh and power consumed in Kw. The car has a >> 66 kW motor. Low cost of operation is one of the advantages of electric >> vehicles, apart from no maintenance (oil, filters, plugs, etc.) the cost of >> operation is very low and even cheaper in traffic where the consumption is >> the inverse of internal combustion engines. I’ll attach a couple of >> pictures, as you can see I’ve only done 65 km this month with the lockdown. >> We can do more traveling now we’ve opened up a bit from the 11th May. I >> reset the data the 1st of every month. >> >> <image001.jpg> >> >> >> >> <image002.jpg> >> >> >> >> On 15 May 2020, at 17:59, Martin Vlietstra <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Mike, >> >> Surely you mean 7 kWh/100 km? (Also 12,5 to 16 kWh/100 km). >> >> Your running costs show one of the advantages of using metric units. A >> petrol-powered small car uses about 4 L/100 km (larger cars typically 7 or 8 >> L/100 km). (I will not quote the mpg as that would means specifying whether >> I am talking about US or Imperial gallons). A litre of petrol is typically >> €1,40 so the running cost of your electric car is one quarter that of a >> petrol-powered car. >> >> Martin Vlietstra >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: USMA [mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Michael Payne >> Sent: 15 May 2020 09:21 >> To: USMA List Server >> Subject: [USMA 1397] Re: Talking to people about metric >> >> I have an electric car as well. The numbers you give show a consumption of >> just over 7 kW/100 km, this is very low compared to my Renault Zoe (the same >> platform as the Nissan Leaf) which averages about 12,5 to16 kW/100 km which >> give me a cost per 100 km of about €1,30. Also charging on the cheap rate >> which the car does automatically. >> >> Mike Payne >> >> >> On 14 May 2020, at 02:35, Harry Wyeth <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I haven't written anything here for a long time, but what Al wrote a couple >> of days ago is really right on. What he says about liberal-right-wing-left >> -wing-fake news-etc is absolutely correct. The best way to convince someone >> about the usefulness of the metric system is to gently point out how simple >> and easy to use it is, and mention that it is used without a second thought >> everywhere else on our planet. Unfortunately, with our miserable political >> divisions and now the virus, we on the metric cutting edge are pretty much >> way out on the back burner for a while. But it would sure be nice to hear >> about 2m social distancing for a change! >> >> On another point, Tesla vehicles have a computer readout showing kWh used >> since the last charge, per trip, or overall. There is also a Wh/km rate >> display for the same periods. One vehicle I have information on shows 2200 >> kWh used for about 15500 km traveled overall. At a $ 0.12 /kWh rate for >> home electric vehicle charging in northern California (starts at midnight), >> the electricity cost is $264 or just $ 0.017/km. >> >> All the driver has to do is select metric instead of miles on a preferences >> screen. >> >> HARRY WYETH >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> USMA mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://lists.colostate.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usma >> <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__lists.colostate.edu_cgi-2Dbin_mailman_listinfo_usma%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3Du6LDEWzohnDQ01ySGnxMzg%26r%3D2z9QGiy5Dxy8_0qMMqfA98Bie-nGD-VfgJgfw4byoU4%26m%3D7yDbupnCtIHh7lNeXj0RGqWuqko7QYfbTd5y2JZheCs%26s%3D8iE8rKryIt1Z-HHkGHouwn9iRfM9docTipvzMCnmKP0%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7Cba4233cb3a684446596d08d7fb28d484%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C637254025097751325&sdata=F9hJpCSXBPmCOp18nklSwShnGknhP8jkfF9grQF%2FGPY%3D&reserved=0> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> USMA mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.colostate.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usma >> <https://lists.colostate.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usma> > _______________________________________________ > USMA mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.colostate.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fusma&data=02%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7Cba4233cb3a684446596d08d7fb28d484%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C637254025097751325&sdata=CYCU3aXRV97vgfq%2FtgQXp3BJ%2F03EVhNs6U9h7hDNAG0%3D&reserved=0 > > <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.colostate.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fusma&data=02%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7Cba4233cb3a684446596d08d7fb28d484%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C637254025097751325&sdata=CYCU3aXRV97vgfq%2FtgQXp3BJ%2F03EVhNs6U9h7hDNAG0%3D&reserved=0>
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