TC, I fully agree with you. My actual Laser slip-ons turn to a goldish colour after a 
while but any metal polisher brings back the shine. Still, they are of a slighter 
yellow tone than any aluminium or chromed  cans. On the other hand, you can forget 
about rust......

Regards, 
Charles ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )

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From: TC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: V-MAX TECH LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 4:29 PM
Subject: Old exhaust pipe post from Walker


> In reference to recent pipe posts I thought somebody might find this
> interesting .. With all the stainless stuff out there today I suppose
> it may be academic but stainless does turn, (color), and some may
> prefer a different finish.  I saved this old thread as a classic since
> Dale himself had responded, (as list members were pulling his chain
> again) ....
> campbell
> 
> > start thread <
> dale wrote:
> 
> Hi Robert,
> 
> Since you posted this on the list, I felt I should respond back on the
> list about our exhaust pricing. This is also not by any means, a
> bashing response towards your posting. My Vortex Exhaust, Hindle and
> Sudco are all three bent by Hindle. Hindles plating is called chromed.
> Sudco just happens to call it nickel. This plating blues quickly and
> causes early corrosion. I know this because I carry a few chrome
> Hindle V4 Honda systems. And for six years, I carried the
> out-of-the-box chrome Hindle V-MAX pipe. A non-ceramic coated pipe
> will start to rust internally as well. Corrosion inside the primary
> tubes causes metal deterioration and scaling restricting exhaust flow
> and
> shortening the life of the exhaust system. This is why I chose to have
> the Vortex 4-1 and 4-1-2 header metallic
> ceramic coated by Jet Hot Coatings. I spend quite a bit more and have
> all the tubing coated, inside and out. This eliminates metal
> deterioration, scaling, improves exhaust flow and makes the exhaust
> more efficient by holding a lot more heat inside the header tubes and
> collector. We also build ours with a 2" core, no tip muffler which
> most customers seem to like better on the V-MAX.
> 
> Warranty: We are the only company in the industry that offers a
> lifetime rust through protection warranty on this type of metallic
> ceramic coating. This means if rust does start to appear on the
> surface and you cannot polish
> it off, Jet Hot will recoat it for life to the original purchaser at
> no charge, excluding shipping. The coating cost on the a V-MAX 4-1 is
> about $140.00 to $180.00 retail depending on the coating company you
> choose. This should not be confused with the coating costs of a
> typical inline 4 cylinder exhaust which is cheaper in price. Keep in
> mind, only Jet Hot will offer the lifetime rust through warranty on
> the Holeshot Vortex header. I noticed you chose the Kerker Exhaust
> system. The V-MAX Kerker 4-1 is also a very well made exhaust system.
> It does have a couple small differences. Our Vortex header retains the
> center stand. With the Kerker, you have to remove the center stand and
> grind your mounts clear off the frame. And, it comes with a very small
> baffle in the muffler. To get equal
> performance to our Vortex, you are going to have to order a 2" medium
> comp baffle. They usually run $60.00 to $80.00. Then the pipes are
> pretty heads up performance wise. So this whole exhaust thing just
> gets down to a personal choice. Being a small company, we just try to
> make ours a little better than the competitions out of the
> box. It cost more money to do so. At $699.00 with everything included,
> we feel ours is a good value and we have many satisfied customers.
> 
> Regards,
> Dale
> 
> rob wrote:
> > On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:25:20 -0400, you spake:
> > >Sorry Rob the correct number is 1-800-326-5487, ask for Dan Bowen
> > >
> > Thanks,Mario,I talked to Dan and he could get me a Hindle for
> $548($609-10%discount), but he didn't know
> > when it would come in. I am planning on being in Vegas for Bike
> Week,Oct 1-5,so I had to go back to Starcycle
> > and order a Kerker.($609)It should be shipped on Friday.If Dale
> Walker is reading this,thanks for the offer,I
> > really do like your exhausts,but I can't see paying $699 for it when
> I can get a Hindle(chromed) for $548 a
> > Sudco(nickle plated) for $549,or a Kerker(chromed) for $609.Plus,I
> needed it fast and only Starcycle had one I
> > could afford,and could ship it to me immediately.Thanks for all who
> helped me on this,I won't forget anyone's
> > helpfulness and can only hope I can be of as much assistance to
> others here in the future. Stay safe all!
> > Robert (last name edited)
> > VMOA #(edited)
> 
> 
> 
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