VACList DigestVACList-Digest Thursday, May 16, 2002 Issue 305
Today's Topics:
1. Wallpaper
2. Re: Wallpaper
3. 9X9 Vinyl Composition Tile to replace old Asbestos tile
4. Re: new flooring
5. Re: Frig Vents
6. Re: new flooring
7. Re: Wallpaper
8. Question: Fantastic Fan & Vulkem?
9. Re: Question: Fantastic Fan & Vulkem?
10. Refrigerator door latch
11. new flooring
12. Re: Question: Fantastic Fan & Vulkem?
13. Re: new flooring
14. Re: Asbestos floor tile - I think the hazzard is overblown
15. Re: Asbestos floor tile - I think the hazzard is overblown
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Message Number: 1
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 20:54:16 -0400
From: Ron Ainsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Wallpaper
Thanks Andy and Randy for the advice. We're just kicking around ideas to
brighten the place up a little and was wondering if it could/should be done
with wall papers. Curved walls kind of limits one's options.
What type of paint would you recomend?
Ron and Barbara Ainsworth
'72 International 29'
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Message Number: 2
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 19:10:50 -0600
From: "Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wallpaper
Ron ~
> What type of paint would you recomend?
You could always use Zolatone like the older trailers ~ It's multi-colored
texture is more interesting than traditional paint and it's very durable!
Shari & Rob Davis
'64 GlobeTrotter
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Message Number: 3
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 18:47:37 -0700
From: "Globetrotter64" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 9X9 Vinyl Composition Tile to replace old Asbestos tile
We replaced our old 9X9 asbestos tile with new 9X9 (cut down from 12X12)
Vinyl Composition Tile. VC tile has come full circle and is now back "in
style" and is available in a large variety of colors and styles including
some "very high style retro" looks from years past. You can find a very
large selection at Home Depot as a special order (at the same price as what
they have stock even). Any floor goods store can order it for you too - Home
Depot just has a usually much better price - often less than half of the
specialty stores. I think the price was about $.58 per tile a couple years
ago.
If you want to make 9X9 tiles from 12X12 tiles you need a special cutter
designed for cutting VC tile. It really is not practical to try cut as many
tiles as you would need by any other method. This industrial quality tool
has a cam action guillotine that leaves a clean, straight, perpendicular,
square edge that will butt tight and square to the next tile. It takes just
a few seconds to make each cut. If it sounds like I am trying to sell it to
you, its probably because I am willing to sell it or rent it to get some of
my investment back. Email me for more info if you are interested.
Arlen & Shirley Manning Napa CA
1964 Globetrotter
http://globetrotter64.home.att.net/
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Message Number: 4
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 21:39:02 -0400
From: "Edward Emerick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: new flooring
Bob,
Its got a black backing that is as sticky as sticky can get. The heat
gun will help pull it up but it is a slow process.
Thanks
Ed
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My Airstream
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:57 AM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Re: new flooring
Ed and James:
For Ed, "Does your 59's flooring have a backing (usually black and
spongey) or is it just tile glued on to the subfloor? To James, "Thanks
for
the tip about the 'steel handled hoe' for scraping up tiles."
Bob
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
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Message Number: 5
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 19:47:05 -0700
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Frig Vents
I'm sure only the 28" is available, as the 24" was plastic and no longer
available. I cut down a 28" aluminum one, as it looked too long and funny
looking. Here's the story;
http://www.VintageAirstream.com/rr_topics_refervent.html
RJ
'65 Caravel
'57 Flying Cloud
> From: "Globetrotter64" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 09:26:51 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [VAC] Frig Vents
>
> Thursdays postings really got my hopes up about finding an aluminum
> refrigerator vent cover. I just called Oasis RV about their aluminum
> refrigerator vents - they only carry the long current style. My 1964
> Globetrotter takes one that is 24" in length. One could, of course, be cut
> down, but I would like to find one that is the right length if possible. My
> plastic one is still holding but just . . . I also called the Airstream
> store. They only will sell merchandise out of their store (over the phone)
> and no parts - even if they have them on the shelf. Alex mentioned that
> they had the aluminum vents on the shelf in the Airstream store in
> Jacksonville. Is anyone going to Jacksonville anytime soon? If so, I would
> love to know if these are the 24" long vents, and if I could make
> arrangements for you to pick one up for me I would be most grateful.
>
> Please email me directly if you might be able to help me on this matter.
>
> Arlen & Shirley Manning Napa CA
> 1964 Globetrotter
> http://globetrotter64.home.att.net/
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Message Number: 6
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 20:44:39 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: new flooring
Dear Ed,
I am sorry to hear that you have to go through so much ho-hum to remove
the tile. Be sure to protect yourself and I recommend knee pads. When it's
all done you'll find a world of inexpensive floor covering solutions. Stay
away from pre-glued tiles. I have heard nothing but nightmares about them,
especially on vintage coaches.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Emerick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:39 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: new flooring
> Bob,
> Its got a black backing that is as sticky as sticky can get. The heat
> gun will help pull it up but it is a slow process.
>
> Thanks
> Ed
>
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> My Airstream
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:57 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList
> Subject: [VAC] Re: new flooring
>
> Ed and James:
> For Ed, "Does your 59's flooring have a backing (usually black and
> spongey) or is it just tile glued on to the subfloor? To James, "Thanks
> for
> the tip about the 'steel handled hoe' for scraping up tiles."
> Bob
>
> Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
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Message Number: 7
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 22:12:49 -0600
From: Jere Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wallpaper
on 5/15/02 7:10 PM, Airstream at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ron ~
>
>> What type of paint would you recomend?
>
> You could always use Zolatone like the older trailers ~ It's multi-colored
> texture is more interesting than traditional paint and it's very durable!
>
> Shari & Rob Davis
> '64 GlobeTrotter
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Shari - I want to get some Zolatone. But, I have found 2 places on the web
relating to Zolatone: http://www.zolatone.com, which shows a distributer in
Denver; then also http://www.zolatoneaim.com, which seems like a more
consumer-oriented site. Do you have any inside info on this? It would be
nice to be able to pick it up locally. I will be driving to Denver Friday to
pay a visit to Cherokee RV Salvage yard, in hope sof finding some goodies
for the GT.
Jere Potter
'64 Safari
'64 Globetrotter
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Message Number: 8
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:03:36 -0500
From: John Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Question: Fantastic Fan & Vulkem?
My project this year is to install 2 new Fantastic roof vent vans, and thanks to
all of you who have documented your experience doing this same thing, there is a
great wealth of information on how-to and what-not-to do. I have studied all
that I could find. I now have the 2 new fans, the Vulkem, the syringes, the
special Airstream interior trim, and the tools.
Here's my question: where should I apply the Vulkem, with respect to the flange
gasket? Should I coat the gasket faces with Vulkem, or just apply it around the
edges when finished?
This is the first time for me using Vulkem, so I want to get it right. Thanks.
John Anderson
'66 Sovereign
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Message Number: 9
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:27:44 -0700
From: James Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question: Fantastic Fan & Vulkem?
At 09:03 AM 5/16/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Here's my question: where should I apply the Vulkem, with respect to the
>flange
>gasket? Should I coat the gasket faces with Vulkem, or just apply it
>around the
>edges when finished?
John:
I had a "factory install" at last years National in South Dakota, and the
inside matches the curve but the outside does not... you wind up filling
the gap with the sealant... I looked up there later and it looked like it
was applied with a trowel... Good Luck...
Jim
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Message Number: 10
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:54:52 -0500
From: Dick and Kris Parins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Refrigerator door latch
Bob Kiger wrote:
>
> Next to the plate
> is a chain with a 1/4" pin that is dropped through the plate and the door
> hole when on the road.
I just ordered one of these from the catalog of the local RV place. Very
inexpensive. I hope it fits.
Dick
'62 Bambi
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Message Number: 11
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:54:40 -0500
From: Dick and Kris Parins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: new flooring
Ed Emerick wrote:
> All this talk of replacing the tile has me out in the 59 trying to get
> the tile off the floor. I have tried scraping, pulling, ripping,
> chipping, watering, heat gunning and most of all swearing to get it out,
> no luck. Any recommendations on how to get this miserable stuff up? The
> others were much easier.
Good luck Ed. Mine was miserable too. I found the heat gun, a stiff
scraper the size of a putty knife and lots of patience was the answer. Heat
it up and scrape off the top layer which came off very easily for me. Then
heat it up some more and scrape out the layers of felty tarry stuff. Then
heat it up some more and try to scrape through the pink or brown colored
glue that held the tile down without gouging the wood. With practice I was
leaving a reverse print of the word Armstrong on the wood after removing
virtually every bit of black stuff. My hip joints are still stiff 3 days
later but now its done!
One of the list participants, Shari Davis, has some good pictures on her web
site. Check out http://www.insideout-design.net/maxwell/ and go
to flooring. I want to thank Shari for her pictures. They showed me it
could be done.
Dick
'62 Bambi
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Message Number: 12
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:15:25 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question: Fantastic Fan & Vulkem?
Place the Vulkem in the joints as much as possible. Either by applying
to the mating faces (which will help anchor the items) or by applying to
the edges and pushing into the gaps. Caulk in the joint will seal much
better and longer than caulk applied to the edges because the caulk in
the joint is protected from the sun and much weather.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 13
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 12:03:58 -0600
From: "InsideOut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: new flooring
> Dick wrote:
>
> One of the list participants, Shari Davis, has some good pictures on her
web
> site. Check out http://www.insideout-design.net/maxwell/ and
go
> to flooring. I want to thank Shari for her pictures. They showed me it
> could be done.
Thanks for directing folks to our site, glad you found it helpful...to find
the "flooring" section, first click on the "During" link on the left.
Shari
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Message Number: 14
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:48:05 -0700
From: "Carol and Oliver Filippi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Asbestos floor tile - I think the hazzard is overblown
Asbestos was a very popular construction material or ingredient in building
products in the late forties thru the 60's, as it has some very useful
properties (one of which can make it hazardous to humans).
Asbestos has relatively long thin fibers which are inert and quite strong.
When this material is incorporated into vinyl (to make floor tile) or the
felt in tar impregnated roofing shingles, etc. the resultant product has
excellent tensile strength and is less likely to break or crack. One
popular use was using asbestos to make reinforced concrete pipe - which was
used for municipal sewer drains etc. (and is probably still in wide use). I
haven't heard of any big government projects to replace this asbestos pipe
application.
The danger with asbestos comes from inhaling these fibers. They can get
trapped in the lungs and cause all sorts of breathing problems and lung
related diseses. Asbestos is relatively inert, and does not break down.
Thus, the body cannot rid itself of (or eliminate) these fibers and thus
they can build up, and eventually cause serious health problems.
However, note that the real danger is in inhaling the loose airborn fibers.
If the fibers are encased in plastic (as in vinyl asbestos tile) the
likelyhood of loose asbestos fibers is very low. Even if you cut the tile
with a saw, the "sawdust" containg the asbestos is very coarse and not
likely to be inhaled as fine asbestos fibers.
Nevertheless, the government reaction to the asbestos fibers has made any
product which contains it to be classified as a hazardous material and
require special removal and disposal techniques.
In most cases, you can probably create a greater hazzard by trying to remove
it, rather than leaving it where it is. (Insulation on steam pipes for
example.) One approved technique (which thankfully recognizes this) is to
encapsulate the asbestos containing material so it cant get loose.
Unfortunately, vinyl asbestos tile is not considered encapsulated, though in
reality it really is.
On should still be careful handling this material, but I think some common
sense would indicate that the material is nowhere near as dangerous as the
publicity would lead one to believe, once you understand what the hazzard
really is.
Oliver Filippi
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Message Number: 15
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 12:34:41 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Asbestos floor tile - I think the hazzard is overblown
Oliver,
Thank you for the thorough explanation . . . makes me feel better now
that I am done with tile removal.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari - Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA (where Rio San Luis Rey meets El Pacifico)
Subject: [VAC] Re: Asbestos floor tile - I think the hazzard is overblown
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