Hi:

Your insight went totally over (around) my head.
Plz elaborate to below:

On Monday 20 October 2008, Anthony Carrico wrote:
> Sorry for spamming the list with Clay Shirky ideas lately, but here we
> are bumping up against another one.
> 
> Traditional organizations start out when an activity requires
> coordination to be accomplished. The catch is that the organization's
> nominal primary activity (fostering digital business in Vermont, etc.)
> is always subject to the continuing existence of the organization
> (writing grants, etc.), and therefore is actually secondary. As a member
> traditional organizations I'm not bashing, just pointing out a 'fact'.
So, fact is:
an .org has a primary mission and its secondary one is to ensure its own 
survival?

> 
> But it isn't a fact. Our technology and culture have progressed. We are
> not fully conscious of the new reality,
which is what, exactly? That the need for an org is diminished, or the
need for a group to have the same ability to be organized has?

> and therefore we don't take full 
> advantage of it. It is now possible to accomplish that which would have
> historically required an organization without one. The application of
> this new fact to cases which could never possibly support or justify
> traditional organization yields a newly possible class of human
> endeavor, and that is exciting. There are already plenty of examples.
can you cite a couple or provide URL? Would this apply equally to business
as to NGO's or (say laabor) movements?

 
Honestly, your observations tie in to a deep-seated interest i have in 
both admiring (for it's efficiency and management skills) and 
loathing (pave the earth) modern business organizational practices;
if one concludes that their policies logically follow.
(which is generally a group of A-types playing zero-sum games or
bureaucrats cooking books to look better than they are)

There are many ways to organize and implement a groups' agenda.
If these new paradigms can be used to offset the stereotypical 
way in which policy gets created
 (lets use the VT-Northlink Project by way of example, compared
to say, valleyfibernet)
then I'd like to hear more.

Rion



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