On Monday 20 October 2008, Paul Flint wrote:
> Greetings list lurkers of all stripes,
> 
> I just got the note below:
> 
> I am looking around in the body for where the message is.  I always 
> thought that the general idea with email is that somewhere in the body was 
> the payload information.  I know that this is revisionist, but I am really 
> insulted in receiving a message that is such a pain to read, especially 
> from folks who are supposed to be savvy about IT!

Coming late into this thread and after reading all the posts, it seems to me
that, legit complaints notwithstanding, what we have here is a 'failure to 
communicate'.

From my perspective, the only folks that are savvy about IT are geeks like us,
not the PHBs and policy wonks who usually run the show, and to whom people like
the gov take their cues.

Also, lets get real. We are, by-n-large  a loose-knit group
of geeks, most of whom gainfully employed and not really intent on organizing.
Our promotion of FOSS rarely goes beyond the monthly meetings of cool/new stuff,
tools that we find useful. We're hardly jumping on the bandwagon of developing 
entreprenuership;
beyond a few members, who are even then can be more exclusive than inclusive 
(ala FOSS-VT).


Does vtSDA have any members participating on this list?
Do mainstream Tech companies like Summit, Verison, Vermont Information 
Processing, The Tech Group,  allscripts,
  et al.. seek our inputs?
Do local mainstream business that above cater and sell to hear our message?
No disrespect intended to the loyal vague cadres, but frankly (and despite what 
I believe
insofar as increasing potential for FOSS in these leaner times) we are a small 
back-water
in a sea of conformity to the legions of corporate hegemony.

Until, or if ever, we decide to get seriously as an advocacy group and create 
the
chanells that can effectively reach-out and demonstrate viable alternatives we 
will remain
a parliment of crows; a happy group that sits on the high-wires watching 
traffic below
and scooping up road-kill.


As to the funding of religious historical edifaces: pity the monies don't 
include a hotspot:)

> 
> I like to keep in mind that the vtSDA is state funded...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Flint
> 
> 
> On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, vtSDA wrote:
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> Kindest Regards,
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> 
> Paul Flint
> (802) 479-2360
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Re:Fox is like the National Enquirer (Score:5, Funny)
by doomicon (5310) Alter Relationship on Friday October 10, @01:03PM 
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To add more credibility, I concur with my fellow poster with my 4 digit ID.
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 by ScrewMaster (602015) * Alter Relationship   on Friday October 10, @01:17PM 
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Yes, well, all that 4 digit ID means is that you've wasted that much more of 
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I'm just here to say these two young slashdotters have definitely seen the 
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 by dillon_rinker (17944) * Alter Relationship   on Friday October 10, @02:34PM 
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I confirm that this story is true. I read about it in the parent comment.
Since my /. ID is even lower than the parent commentor's, this is an even 
stronger verification of the story's accuracy.
(P.S. This is how actual journalism works.)
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 by monk (1958) Alter Relationship   on Friday October 10, @05:31PM (#25332811) 
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=>I have a 5 digit Slashdot ID, so I think you can count on me being a reliable 
source. I got the information from a Slashdot story as well, so you can be 
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I have a 4 digit Slashdot ID and I vouch for the absolute veracity of the 
parent, so don't bother fact checking, or I'll go crying to one of the 3 
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