Hi Dmitri,

So the 2.3 release will support kvm using the libvirt framework.
Ideally we would extend the libvirt provisioning module set to support
XenServer. I'm not sure about the details of XCP.

Aaron

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Dmitri Chebotarov <dcheb...@gmu.edu> wrote:
> True, would be interesting to compare other supported hypervisors to ESXi.
> With limits in ESXi 5.0 free versions many will be looking for alternative 
> hypervisors.
> I remember seeing support for Xen in future VCL releases - does it include 
> Xen Cloud Platform (XCP) and XenServer 5.6/6 ?
>
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>
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>
> On Thursday, May 24, 2012 at 21:03 , Sanders, Arbin D wrote:
>
>> How about other hypervisors? KVM limits?
>>
>> Arbin D. Sanders
>>
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>>
>> -----Original message-----
>> > From: Dmitri Chebotarov <dcheb...@gmu.edu (mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu)>
>> > To: "vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org)" 
>> > <vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org)>
>> > Cc: "vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org)" 
>> > <vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org)>, 
>> > "vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org)" 
>> > <vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org)>
>> > Sent: Thu, May 24, 2012 17:54:59 EDT
>> > Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>> >
>> > This link may be helpful
>> >
>> > http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2000935
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On May 24, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Alexander Patterson 
>> > <alexander.patter...@csueastbay.edu 
>> > (mailto:alexander.patter...@csueastbay.edu)> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm not sure from what I have been reading, might want to contact your
>> > > VMware Rep and see what they can do if you plan on upgrading to 5.
>> > >
>> > > WIth ESXI 4.1
>> > >
>> > > Infrastructure limitations
>> > > Some limitations in ESX Server 4 may constrain the design of data 
>> > > centers:
>> > > Guest system maximum RAM: 255 GB
>> > > Host system maximum RAM: 1 TB[
>> > > Number of hosts in a high availability cluster: 32
>> > > Number of Primary Nodes in ESX Cluster high availability: 5
>> > > Number of hosts in a Distributed Resource Scheduler cluster: 32
>> > > Maximum number of processors per virtual machine: 8
>> > > Maximum number of processors per host: 160
>> > > Maximum number of cores per processor: 12
>> > > Maximum number of virtual machines per host: 320
>> > > VMFS-3 limits files to 262,144 (218) blocks, which translates to 256
>> > > GB for 1 MB block sizes (the default) or up to 2 TB for 8 MB block
>> > > sizes.However, on a VMFS Boot drive, it is usually very difficult to
>> > > use anything other than 1 MB Block size
>> > >
>> > > With ESXI 5 there has been some changes to these limits
>> > > Guest system maximum RAM: 1 TB
>> > > Host system maximum RAM: 2 TB
>> > > Number of hosts in a high availability cluster: 32
>> > > Maximum number of processors per virtual machine: 32
>> > > Maximum number of processors per host: 160
>> > > Maximum number of cores per processor: 25
>> > > Maximum number of virtual machines per host: 512
>> > > VMFS-3 is supported and has the same limits as before
>> > > VMFS-5 however has a max volume size of 64 TB and a max file size of 2
>> > > TB - 512 B
>> > > How much vRAM does a VMware vSphere Hypervisor license provide?
>> > > vSphere Hypervisor license provides a vRAM entitlement of 32GB per
>> > > server, regardless of the number of physical processors. vSphere
>> > > Hypervisor can be used on servers with maximum physical RAM capacity
>> > > of 32GB.
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <asand...@nccu.edu 
>> > > (mailto:asand...@nccu.edu)> wrote:
>> > >> Alexander,
>> > >>
>> > >> What if I use the paid version of vSphere5? And I have 96 GB of memory? 
>> > >> Could I get more than 20 VMs?
>> > >>
>> > >> Arbin Darren Sanders
>> > >>
>> > >> IT Manager - Academic Computing
>> > >> North Carolina Central University
>> > >> 712 Cecil Street
>> > >> Suite 3014
>> > >> Durham, NC 27707
>> > >> 919.530.6307
>> > >> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>> > >>
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>> > >>
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: Alexander Patterson [mailto:alexander.patter...@csueastbay.edu]
>> > >> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:17 PM
>> > >> To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org)
>> > >> Cc: vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org)
>> > >> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>> > >>
>> > >> Hello,
>> > >>
>> > >> ESXI 5 is limit by licenses with the amount of ram you can run on each 
>> > >> machine.
>> > >> The 8 GB vRAM limit is for the upcoming 5.0 free Hypervisor, the 4.x 
>> > >> version had no such memory limits.
>> > >> VM makes you pay now if you want to use X amount of ram per host with 
>> > >> the upcoming version.
>> > >>
>> > >> Making 4.1 I Free Version a much more attractive option to go with
>> > >>
>> > >> We have each of our blades running ESXI 4.1 with 16 Cores and 48 GB of 
>> > >> ram and we have 20 VM's per blade but we give 1.5 GB of ram to each VM.
>> > >>
>> > >> More info here
>> > >> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1014006
>> > >>
>> > >> -Alex
>> > >>
>> > >> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <asand...@nccu.edu 
>> > >> (mailto:asand...@nccu.edu)> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I am planning on using a free version of vSphere 5 depending on the 
>> > >>> how many VMs I can get. I would like to get 50 VMs per host.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Arbin Darren Sanders
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> IT Manager - Academic Computing
>> > >>>
>> > >>> North Carolina Central University
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 712 Cecil Street
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Suite 3014
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Durham, NC 27707
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 919.530.6307
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
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>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> From: Dmitri Chebotarov [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
>> > >>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:01 PM
>> > >>> To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org)
>> > >>> Cc: vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org 
>> > >>> (mailto:vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org)
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Here is some info:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> http://myvirtualcloud.net/?p=1155
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> This is for VMware View which could
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