----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ayal Baron" <aba...@redhat.com>
> To: "Kiril Nesenko" <ki...@redhat.com>
> Cc: "Eyal Edri" <ee...@redhat.com>, vdsm-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org
> Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:04:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [vdsm] vdsm - closer to open source versioning and release cycle
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > We would like to make some changes to the vdsm project.
> > 
> > 1. We would like to see this [1] merged. We should start acting
> > like a normal open source project and upstream should not be distro
> > oriented
> > !
> 
> Let's sort things out here a little.
> Just to make sure I understand what we're talking about, are you suggesting
> that the 'normal' way of working is to create a version *before* there is a
> single line of code relevant to this version? If so, please explain what
> other projects (outside of ovirt) work this way.
> iiuc libvirt (for example) doesn't work this way.
> This question was also asked and ignored on the patch so let's assert that
> this is the way other projects actually work first before defining it as
> 'normal'.
> 
> In addition, the patch introduces all kinds of changes so I'm not sure which
> of these are what interest you and which are just getting in the way of
> reaching an agreement.
> So if you want to push this forward then please:
> 1. explain the logic behind the naming convention
> 2. assert that this is 'normal' and not us inventing new methods here that
> are not actually accepted elsewhere.
> 3. split this part of the patch from the rest to be able to address each
> issue separately

Hello,

Let's start with the problem within current vdsm version scheme is that there 
is no actual release layout, vdsm-4.9.6 is release while vdsm-4.9.5 is not, 
this breaks expectation (of some people) of which there is a clear distinction 
between pre-release and release.

Expected release cycle is:

vdsm-4.9.0_alpha
vdsm-4.9.0_alpha1
vdsm-4.9.0_alpha2
vdsm-4.9.0_beta
vdsm-4.9.0_beta1
vdsm-4.9.0_beta2
vdsm-4.9.0_beta3
vdsm-4.9.0_rc
vdsm-4.9.0_rc1
vdsm-4.9.0
vdsm-4.9.1_beta
vdsm-4.9.1_rc
vdsm-4.9.1

master or branch are work toward the next version, for example, if we have the 
following release xxx-1.0.0, then we probably have the following branches:

master - work toward next minor (1.1.0).
xxx-1.0 - work toward next z for 1.0 (1.0.1).

and the following tags:

xxx-1.0.0

Once xxx.1.0.0 was released, there should be no snapshot or any build, 
including manual build that is <=xxx-1.0.0 from the branches, so that the 
sequence of upgrade will not be broken. When a beta is released out of these 
branches, it will be probably:

master  -> xxx-1.1.0_beta
xxx-1.0 -> xxx-1.0.1_beta

as these betas or of the *NEXT* version and not the previous ones.

and then when releases will be made:

master -> work toward next minor (1.2.0)
xxx-1.1 -> branch of master at xxx-1.1.0 point, work toward 1.1.1.
xxx-1.0 -> work toward of xxx-1.0.2

tags:

xxx-1.0.0
xxx-1.0.1
xxx-1.1.0

And so on.

Snapshots can be taken at any given point in time, in our case it can be be:

master -> xxx-1.2.0_snapshot201304051234
xxx-1.1 -> xxx-1.1.1_snapshot201304051234
xxx-1.0 -> xxx-1.1.2_snapshot201304051234

Notice that the snapshot are also a snapshot of the work toward the next 
version, these are not snapshots of the previous already released versions.

> 
> 
> > 
> > 2. We would like to see a normal branches behavior. There are a lot of
> > examples in [1]. (I can help with usptream releases)
> > 
> > 3. I would like to use a new naming convention for builds:
> >    vdsm-<upstream-tarball>-<downstream version>
> >    For example:
> >    vdsm-4.11.0-0.1_master
> >    ...
> >    ...
> >    ...
> >    vdsm-4.11.0-0.15_beta1
> >    vdsm-4.11.0-0.16_beta2
> >    ...
> >    ...
> >    ...
> >    vdsm-4.11.0-0.17_rc1 <- could be shipped as GA as well
> >    vdsm is shipped
> >    vdsm-4.11.0-1 <- first z-stream build
> >    vdsm-4.11.0-2 <- second z-stream build
> >    etc.
> > 
> > 4. Currently we have some projects that were moved to this style. And it
> > very
> > easy to maintain the releases.
> > Projects that were moved:
> > ovirt-log-collector
> > ovirt-iso-uploader
> > ovirt-image-uploader
> > otopi
> > ovirt-host-deploy
> > ovirt-engine
> > vdsm ?  <- we would like to see it here as well !
> > 
> > [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/12448/
> > 
> > - Kiril
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