Jeff said:
> I'm a latecomer to this, but I qualify as an "interested party".
>
> There is a sizeable community of folks (including myself) using the
> VelocityViewServlet with Maverick.  A runtime dependency on struts.jar
would
> be a massive mistake - but you seem to acknowledge that.

yes! I have NO intention of ever creating a runtime dependency on struts for
anything but the struts tools/utils (which definitely does not include VVS
and co.).  that would be a Bad Idea (tm)!

personally, i see the "VelocityView" code as the meat and potatoes of the
velocity-tools project.  the Struts tools are really just a garnish (but one
with a fair user draw).

> As long as there is no runtime dependency, the question for me is, how
much > is the Struts-specific code going to bloat the jar?  Is the
Struts-related
> code (like Struts itself) going to inflate wildly out of control or is it
> just a handful of tools that are "done"?

that said, right now there are 5 struts dependent classes (14kb).  and,
until we do a release that supports Struts 1.0, the current set of tools is
"done" (with maybe a tweak here and there).

as for the future, i'm not really sure how much things will grow.  there is
an ActionMessagesTool waiting in the wings, and there may be some classes to
support Tiles, Validator, or modules (subapps).  i am, however, *very*
doubtful that it will "inflate wildly out of control."

> How often will the Struts-related
> code result in new releases unrelated to the VelocityViewServlet?

is that a question about release schedules for a jakarta project?  surely
you must know the answer to those... :-)

ok, so the question isn't totally invalid, but really, the answer is still
that i don't know.  check out the STATUS file in CVS for a fair idea of
where things are headed.

> If I had a vote, it would probably be -0.
>
> Jeff Schnitzer
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>
> > Ok, here's where things stand so far as i can see:
> >
> > Commiters:
> > +1 nathan
> > +1 gabe
> > -? geir (sounded like a -1)
> >
> > Contributors:
> > +1 anthony
> > +? tim (not sure where you ended up)
> > -? bill (sounded like -0)
> >
> > Important Users: :-)
> > -0 jeff

Nathan Bubna
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