>One area is speed. JSP Engines have improved a lot in terms of speed over
the
>last two years. For my types of applications, Resin processes JSP templates
>about two to three times faster than Velocity templates. Tomcat has
improved a
>lot as well.  One or two years ago, JSP and Velocity were comparable in
terms
>of speed. This is not true anymore for the types of application I run.

Buy one or two ekstra application servers......

At our company the issues of application programming is not that of speed.
Liniar or polynominal speed issues can be solved with enough servers in
the appropriate cluster configuration, and is not expensive anymore.

The biggest problem is minimizing complexity and maximizing ease of use.

Our products normally both makes use of velocity and JSP, but for two
different
things.... JSP is for core (programmer) application facilities, velocity is
normally used for configuration facilities (for example generation of
reciepts, which can be configured by the superuser or user of our
application).

/Carsten



-----Original Message-----
From: Gabriel Sidler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3. marts 2003 14:26
To: Velocity Developers List
Subject: Re: AW: velocity 1.3.1 final?



Terry Steichen wrote:

> I too use Velocity and find it quite stable.  I've also extended it (as
have
> most) with specialized tools, and as a result, it does precisely what I
want
> it to do.  I agree that it's important to take a look at the bug
processing
> and make sure it is robust.  But I don't understand your comment about
> losing ground in comparision to other engines.  What does that mean in
terms
> of being able to do things with other alternatives that you can't do with
> Velocity?


One area is speed. JSP Engines have improved a lot in terms of speed over
the
last two years. For my types of applications, Resin processes JSP templates
about two to three times faster than Velocity templates. Tomcat has improved
a
lot as well.  One or two years ago, JSP and Velocity were comparable in
terms
of speed. This is not true anymore for the types of application I run.

Now, performance is one among many evaluation criteria for a templating
solution and rarely the most import one. Nevertheless, this is an area were
Velocity has lost ground.

Gabe



>
> Regards,
>
> Terry
>
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> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 3:46 AM
> Subject: AW: AW: velocity 1.3.1 final?
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>
>
>>Is there something in particular which is preventing you from using
>>the stable or development branches of Velocity?
>>
>
> I'm using Velocity and it is quite stable, but it really
> lost ground in comparison with other template engines,
> and - that's the most important thing - there are quite
> a few bugs reported (have a look at the archives) and
> no one is fixing them, or - even worse - someone fixed
> it, but no one reviewed the patch so the bug is still left
> in the code. IMHO that's not the right way to find some
> interested commiters.
> I really would like to hear something about the thoughts
> of the current committers. what should be the future of
> Velocity? How we can find a lead?
>
> mike
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