> mike said: > > I really would like to hear something about the thoughts > > of the current committers. what should be the future of > Velocity? How > > we can find a lead? > > i'm not a committer to velocity proper, but i'll share my > thoughts anyhow...
So do I and others... :) > the first is the lack of a final 1.3.1 release. i don't > really know myself what it takes to do a release Extensive knowledge in: - typing "ant package" (and "ant package-jar" and so on) - copying files :) No, seriously: The code is stable (does anybody use anything but 1.3.1rc2?) and the actual release should be nothing really hard to do. So, any comitter could do it within an hour (with some testing and stuff) or even less. > the second is that the committers' > unwillingness/inability/extreme-slowness > to apply contributors patches *strongly* discourages would-be > contributors or potential committers from getting involved. > in other words, it's pretty hard to merit committer status if > the only open avenue for contribution is user-list support. BTW, another question is: *Who* are the currently acitve comitters? And which one is listening to this list? Could you please *say* something? > since, afaics, the project is presently lacking someone who > has "qualified" for committer status in the usual manner > (much useful and accepted > contributions) and the state of committer activity prevents > someone from becoming such, why don't you (the committers) > just pick someone that is willing/able to put in time and get > them committer status. I think simply picking someone is a bad idea. Especially if you are seeking a new lead or the "sole comitter". You never know if the guy / girl is only keen on "being part of it" and once he /she is part of it loses his / her interest. But on the other hand, there is not much of an option here :) > to anyone out there who is willing and confident enough in > their worthiness to take on that responsibility, i think you > may have to be a little bold/cheeky and explicitly (and in > private email) request the committers to add you to their > ranks. I don't like the idea of "self promotion". A better way would be (if the comitters ever even think of things like seeking a new comitter / lead) to let the comunity on the dev list propose some names. But either way we choose, the comitters have to *say* something to all this! > > 1. stick around and earn their trust with user list support, > attaching/testing patches in bugzilla, and coherent doc/code > contributions > > 2. leave and take the code with you. clone/improve the > project at sourceforge or something. As already stated in some mails: That really becomes an option. Why not assembling the guys that are willing to do something and start a sourceforge-project? I don't like the idea too much, but it seems to becoming the last option. But this way you would lose the community... > to those of you who are complaining about the lack of > progress and/or arguing with those complaining... be careful > that you're not just adding to the noise. 'tis far better to > be (or at least try to be) part of the solution than part of > the noise. I totally agree with you! But I think many people here on this list make good proposals (like yours now) and do not sit back and say "f***k it". Some perhaps do... Peter > > Nathan Bubna > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
