I have got to second this. Of all the traffic on this list in the past week 40% of it was how much better freemarker is than velocity, 40% about how turbine screwed Freemarker, 10% about how FreeMarker does not want to any work to get added back into Turbine, 5% about how Velocity will start getting its act together and a message about using struts with velocity.
IMO this should have been on a freemarker list and the turbine list. One other note I saw glancing through the various emails was, and I don't know who, "all the original developers of velocity have abandoned the project". This is cool, and I think it is a necessary evolution of an opensource project. People have a need, develop something and give it out. When their need is satisfied they move on and other developers take over. Project development continues as the need manifests itself. Just my opinion -----Original Message----- From: Eelco Hillenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:50 AM To: Velocity Developers List Subject: Re: JavaCC open sourced on dev.java.net Maybe this is a subject to start a new list on. It's really not the kind of discussions I joined this list for. Eelco ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Revusky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:44 PM Subject: Re: JavaCC open sourced on dev.java.net > Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: > > Daniel Dekany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >>Tuesday, June 17, 2003, 2:07:54 AM, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > >>either naive or intentionally distorts facts. The reason is that > >>Jakarta projects tend to use other Jakarta projects, for strategic > >>reasons. > > > > [...] > > > > "You have a serious ego problem." http://us.imdb.com/Title?0118883 > > Henning, have you heard of the "ad-hominem" fallacy? > > That's where you make a personal attack on somebody else's character > because you can't deal with what they're saying via legitimate debate. > > I infer from the ancient Greek origin of the term that this particular > ploy was already well known and dissected a loooong time ago. > > So, it's really really oooold. You really ought to try to do a bit > better than this. Try to maintain a higher standard of discourse, > because this kind of thing reflects poorly on your work. People will > likely draw negative inferences. (I already have, for example.) > > Regards, > > Jonathan Revusky > -- > lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ > FreeMarker-Velocity comparison page, > http://freemarker.org/fmVsVel.html > FreeMarker 2.3pre4 is out! > > > > > > Regards > > Henning > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
