On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 11:44 AM, Mat�as Giovannini wrote:
On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 03:47 AM, Ilkka Priha wrote:
Jonathan, I don't see that your argumentation and attitude would lead to any positive reactions or development either for Velocity or for FreeMarker. There is room for more than one template engine, at least as long as JSP is what it is today.
I disagree. To me, Jonathan comes across as a fine, if somewhat explosive, rhetorician. He is as passionate and articulate about his ideas as the Velocity developers are. Exchange of ideas and points of view, and never turf wars, is what Open Source is about. In order for Velocity (and FreeMarker) to progress, we must critically examine the boundary and decide in which ways it is productive to push it. Let's not be wary of debate but of obstinacy.
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So why not let Velocity and FreeMarker to follow their own design philosophies and people will have alternatives to choose from based on their different demands?
Because this would be tantamount to letting Velocity and FreeMarker be contenders in a Darwinian tournament whose outcome is solely determined by market force. As long as FreeMarker is more flexible in meeting the challenges the environment poses, it is slated to be the favorite champion. In this setting, Velocity simply cannot choose to stand still, defending its high moral ground: it is stagnation and oblivion.
I apologize for my florid verbiage, but I want to stress the fact that to me the debate is not technical but philosophical, and one that must be fully argued through.
I don't really understand your point. I don't think anyone is arguing that Velocity *must* stand still and do nothing. I think we are all in agreement that we need to get the momentum going again, and that there's lots of people interested, and we're going to do it.
Since we are all in violent agreement on this, what are we discussing?
geir
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