Daniel Dekany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Can you (and everyone else) please take this discussion off a project development list.
Personally, I'm not interested in the various ego problems cropping up here.
Henning, then why did you just separately contribute a long tirade to the thread??? You know, this long post going on about how I'm so terrible and egotistical, just completely off-topic personality stuff...
And really, it's just A-1-A ad-hominem stuff. That's what all of these personal attacks on me are. I have pointed out that Velocity development has been at a standstill for a year or more. I have pointed out quite factually various deficiencies in the tool, and said quite truthfully that these problems have been addressed in a competing tool in the same space.
The lack of development, and that the tool is falling further and further behind other things, these are simply facts and they are things the Velocity community should address. Meanwhile, my deplorable personality is not something they can do anything about anyway. So the tirades against my person are obviously just an attempt to blow smoke to obscure the real issue.
Not only that, but it gets increasingly clownish. Look at the Velocity-user list. You have somebody proposing censorship. However, when asked to provide a concrete example of the material I have written that requires censorship, the guy simply won't provide any. This doesn't prevent other people from +1'ing the censorship proposal (to be fair, you were -1 on that crazy idea) but these other people also will not provide any concrete example of the egregious material that needs to be censored.
Quite obviously, they simply don't like me pointing out the real state of this project. Also, they don't like me pointing out truthfully that a competing tool has features lacking in Velocity that a user wants. Basically, they want to censor truthful, on-topic comments that put their development efforts (lack thereof, I mean) in a negative light. Of course, they won't provide concrete examples of such material that they want to censor because that would make them a laughing stock -- I mean, even more of a laughing stock than they currently are. After all, there's no getting away from it; to propose censorship and be unwilling to provide any concrete example of the material you want to censor... that's pretty lame.
Jonathan Revusky
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Thanks Henning
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