Ah, hi Jonathan how are you?
I think we discussed this issue extensively last time Jonathan was on the
last a couple of years ago. Perhaps I might suggest the rest of the
Velocity community just refuse to be baited and stick to the topic at hand?
(basically, ignore the temptation to have the last word).
As I remember, the topic was how new community members can help out.
Cheers,
WILL
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From: "Jonathan Revusky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: wanting to join the team
Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:
"Llewellyn Falco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:-) this bug has been in the tracker for months.
Can you give me a Bugzilla ID?
you will gain 2 new programmers to help breathe some life back into this
project.
Velocity never was/is dead.
Henning,
I am reluctant to use the inflammatory L-word, but when you claim that the
project never was/is dead, I cannot interpret this generously. AFAICT, you
are knowingly stating a falsehood.
Given my role in the FreeMarker project, I keep an eye on this list off
and on, to see what our main competitor in this space is up to. And, the
answer is quite clearly is that it is going nowhere and that has been the
case for at least 3 years. Tell me, what was the last significant feature
added to Velocity and when was it added?
To me, it's really odd that you'd claim otherwise. Surely everybody
subscribed to this list is familiar with that state of affairs. And, you
know, the guy you're responding to has looked for himself at your bug
tracker and anybody can see the neglected, pitiful state that this project
is in. I mean, it's literally like you're attempting a bluff in a poker
game when the guy has already seen your cards and knows you have nothing.
The current committers are just picky on
what should go in the tree, mainly because the strongest asset of
Velocity is stability.
<sigh>
Well, c'mon, that the thing's greatest asset is stability is a tacit
admission that nothing is happening. That's the great asset you can always
point to when nobody does anything: stability.
Rather overrated really. After all, if anybody wants stability, all they
have to do is never upgrade when a new version comes out.
Anyway, you're fibbing again. The statement "The current committers are
picky..." can only mean they actually review the patches and contributions
and so on and reject all but the best. That is clearly not the case.
Basically, bug reports and contributed patches are simply being ignored.
That is because nobody (except Will, I guess) is really actively involved,
i.e. the project is not being actively developed and maintained -- i.e.
it's basically dead.
Jonathan Revusky
--
lead developer, FreeMarker project http://freemarker.org
Velocity-FreeMarker comparison page: http://freemarker.org/fmVsVel.html
Regards
Henning
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