that was my thought all along, though i guess i forgot to say it. we should definitely log a message on auto-init. probably an "info" level for things like evaluate() and "warn" for any heavier lifting.
the singleton stuff isn't going anywhere so long as we're working 1.x versions, but i think this should apply for the VelocityEngine too. even if/when the singleton goes, i still want there to be the evaluate() functions. i don't see any reason those should *require* manual init(). On 3/6/06, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You could auto-init Velocity but log a message stating that you are doing > that... > > > > On 3/6/06, Max Rydahl Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:39:15 +0100, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Sure, why not? > > > > because then users who like to know if a subsystem is configured > > before using it will not get a warning/exception. > > > > I would rather say that all the static singleton functionallity > > should be ripped out of velocity since it is a Bad Thing. > > > > /max > > > > > > > > On 3/6/06, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >> hey guys, > > >> > > >> here's another idea i've only half-thought through... :) > > >> > > >> why do we require users to manually init() Velocity? are our default > > >> settings that useless? > > >> > > >> i know most users will still want and need to do init(props), so it > > >> ultimately isn't a big deal either way. but i think it could be a > > >> nice convenience to automatically call init() when someone tries to > > >> use Velocity, especially for those using Velocity.evaluate(). as it > > >> is, we (sometimes) throw IllegalStateExceptions if someone is trying > > >> to use Velocity and RuntimeInstance.isInitialized() returns false. > > >> why not just call init() instead of barking at the user? > > >> > > >> feedback appreciated. :) > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________ > > > Forio Business Simulations > > > > > > Will Glass-Husain > > > phone (415) 440-7500 x89 > > > mobile (415) 235-4293 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > www.forio.com > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > Max Rydahl Andersen > > callto://max.rydahl.andersen > > > > Hibernate > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://hibernate.org > > > > JBoss Inc > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > _______________________________________ > Forio Business Simulations > > Will Glass-Husain > phone (415) 440-7500 x89 > mobile (415) 235-4293 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.forio.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
