While I agree it is best NOT to close the barn door after the horse gets
out, I wonder why there has been no mention of declotting with NaHCO3. It is
cheap and should work. So if there is indeed few clotted PICCs then the pharmacy
should have 8.4% Sodium Bicarb at the ready for those few occasions.
i still think Fosphenytoin is the better answer, even in a central access
like a PICC, but if you can not win that battle now, at least there is an option
to pulling the line.
Tony West,
RN, CRNI Healix, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMS:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 214-674-4848
In a message dated 1/9/2006 1:42:32 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We had
some resistance as well...the pharmacy said that even though there are
problems with infusing Dilantin via PICCs, out of all the Dilantin doses
given IV, that only a few of the PICCs have occluded, so the percentage of
all the doses causing problems is small. I see their point, but tell
that to a family of a small child who has to go get another PICC
placed! Anyway, we are in the process of putting in place a data base
for our central lines and hopefully will have better tracking in the
future. In the meantime, my IV team and IR staff advise not infusing
IV Dilantin via PICCs. You would like a CVC due to the high pH [like
Draino], but if it clogs the CVC, it is not worth it. We seem OK via
non-tunneled and tunneled lines, but not PICCs. It is part of our nursing
PICC instruction. By the way, we give our Dilantin IV as an infusion,
mixed with saline, not as a push drug as most adult hospitals
do.... Anne Marie
>>> "Cole, Darilyn - MET"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/09/06 12:13 PM >>> I am revisting
this topic because of an ongoing problem with dilantin precipitates in our
picc lines.
I want our pharmacy to stock fosphenytoin, they say it too
expensive and that the problem is strictly a nursing issue.
What
I need to know is how have you addressed this problem in
your facility. It would also be helpful to have some article references
that I can pass on to the Pharmacy and Therapeutics committee on the
general safety of fosphenytoin vs phentoin.
Thanks in
advance,
Darilyn Cole, RN CRNI IV Therapy Dept. Methodist
Hospital 7500 Timberlake Way Sacramento, CA
95823
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