While I agree it is best NOT to close the barn door after the horse gets out, I wonder why there has been no mention of declotting with NaHCO3. It is cheap and should work. So if there is indeed few clotted PICCs then the pharmacy should have 8.4% Sodium Bicarb at the ready for those few occasions.
 
i still think Fosphenytoin is the better answer, even in a central access like a PICC, but if you can not win that battle now, at least there is an option to pulling the line.
 
Tony West, RN, CRNI
Healix, Inc.
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In a message dated 1/9/2006 1:42:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We had some resistance as well...the pharmacy said that even though
there are problems with infusing Dilantin via PICCs, out of all the
Dilantin doses given IV, that only a few of the PICCs have occluded, so
the percentage of all the doses causing problems is small.  I see their
point, but tell that to a family of a small child who has to go get
another PICC placed!  Anyway, we are in the process of putting in place
a data base for our central lines and hopefully will have better
tracking in the future.  In the meantime, my IV team and IR staff advise
not infusing IV Dilantin via PICCs.  You would like a CVC due to the
high pH [like Draino], but if it clogs the CVC, it is not worth it.  We
seem OK via non-tunneled and tunneled lines, but not PICCs. It is part
of our nursing PICC instruction.  By the way, we give our Dilantin IV as
an infusion, mixed with saline, not as a push drug as most adult
hospitals do....
Anne Marie

>>> "Cole, Darilyn - MET" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/09/06 12:13 PM >>>
I am revisting this topic because of an ongoing problem with dilantin
precipitates in our picc lines.

I want our pharmacy to stock fosphenytoin, they say it too expensive
and
that the problem is strictly a nursing issue.

What I need to know is how have you addressed this problem in your
facility.
It would also be helpful to have some article references that I can
pass on
to the Pharmacy and Therapeutics committee on the general safety of
fosphenytoin vs phentoin.

Thanks in advance,

Darilyn Cole,  RN CRNI
IV Therapy Dept.
Methodist Hospital
7500 Timberlake Way
Sacramento, CA 95823




 

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