I was told it's not within the scope for the tech to
use line other than piv.
please verify. thank you

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> 
> A new peripheral IV, 20G or larger in a large vein
> is still the safest way to power inject contrast. 
> There is no way you can see or even feel an
> infiltration with a midline until it is at the "we
> need a plastic surgeon" point.  I work in Radiology
> now, and I would be surprised to find a Rad tech
> that would use a midline...many are still leary of
> the Power PICC, afraid that it will blow, because of
> the length of the line. 
> Chris Cavanaugh, CRNI 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Tami Spaeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2006 6:33 pm 
> Subject: Re: 5fr Midlines 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> > Here are some of my thoughts on power injecting
> through a midline. 
> > When 
> > using a peripheral IV in, say, the AC, the tech
> can feel the 
> > contrast going 
> > into the vein by palpating just proximal to the
> insertion site 
> > and, at the 
> > same time, watch for an extravasation. How can
> this be done with a 
> > midline? 
> > One would never know if it had extravasated since
> the tip resides 
> > close to 
> > the axillary vein. 
> > Tami Spaeder, RN, BSN 
> > 
> > >From: "Cindy Schrum CRNI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > >Subject: Re: 5fr Midlines 
> > >Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 17:28:54 -0500 
> > > 
> > >Why is it ok to power inject a vesicant when it's
> not ok to 
> > infuse a 
> > >vesicant through a midline? Somebody needs to
> help me with this one! 
> > > 
> > >Cindy Schrum RN CRNI 
> > >IVTeam Coordinator 
> > >Gaston Memorial Hospital 
> > >Gastonia, North Carolina 
> > >(704) 834-2707 
> > > 
> > > >>> "Richard Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 3/7/2006 3:43 PM >>> 
> > >At our hospital the IR docs now do all PICC
> lines. There are 
> > still a couple 
> > >of us former PICC nurses who occasionally place
> midlines since it 
> > doesnt 
> > >require a trip to radiology. We do occasionally
> place a 'power' 
> > midline by 
> > >using a 5Fr single lumen power picc and cutting
> it to midline 
> > length. I do 
> > >the same procedure as if I was placing a PICC
> except that I cut 
> > the power 
> > >picc at the 20 cm mark prior to insertion. You
> have to pull back 
> > the 
> > >stiffening stylet so you arent trying to cut that
> as well and 
> > then it 
> > >sticks out and creates problems with maintaing a
> sterile field. 
> > Last time 
> > >I took the stiffening stylet clear out and that
> worked better. I 
> > then 
> > >insert it to the 5 cm mark, so 15 cm is in the
> patient. After I 
> > am done I 
> > >use a sharpie marker to mark 'midline' on the
> dressing and on the 
> > skin, 
> > >otherwise people will assume it is a PICC instead
> of a midline. 
> > Then they 
> > >can use this for CT contrast if needed. It works
> fine, but of 
> > course you 
> > >have the limitations of a mid! 
> > > line--no good for vancomycin, TPN, etc. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >Rich Pearson RN MS CCRN 
> > >Clinical Nurse Specialist 
> > >Intensive/Post Intensive Care 
> > >Alegent Health-Immanuel Medical Center 
> > >Omaha, Nebraska 
> > >402-572-3433 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >>> "julie bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/7/2006
> 12:30 PM >>> 
> > >We have always used single lumen 4fr cathteters
> for Midline 
> > insertions at 
> > >my facility. 
> > > Are there any contraindications to using a 5FR
> single lumen 
> > Midline?> Contemplating using the single lumen 5fr
> power PICC 
> > and cutting for 
> > >Midline. 
> > > Thank you. 
> > > Julie 
> > > 
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