I also believe it is not just the introducer.  The guidewires are a major
problem, much to flexible.  I believe we should all be using Nitinol
wires.  They are less flexible and help guide the dilator/introducer into
the vein and is a little more forgiving if we are not following the needle
path down to the vein.

Tim Royer, RN, BSN, CRNI


> One potential explanation for the vasoconstriction is the frayed
> introducer. This increased trauma stimulates the tunica media to go
> into contraction. The smooth muscle can hold this contraction for
> long periods and it does not take very much stimulation to set it
> off. Just a thought of what might be happening when the tip of the
> introducer becomes frayed on insertion. Lynn
>
> At 8:53 PM -0800 10/29/06, Glenn and Dayna Holt wrote:
>>I have had this trouble off and on.  I find if the skin is thick or
>>the nick is not sufficient then the introducer is likely to fray a
>>little.  Once it has frayed it is nearly impossible to insert.  I
>>have found that by gently twisting the introducer as it enters, and
>>going slowly, I can usually prevent any fraying and the introducer
>>goes in easier.  I have this trouble more with the 3fr than with
>>bigger introducers.
>>
>>Dayna Holt, RN
>>Children's Hospital
>>San Diego, CA
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Fullana
>>Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 3:41 AM
>>To: Nancy Sullivan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: ? Problem with introducer
>>
>>Nancy,
>>      Try this:  Separate the introducer into two parts. Slide the
>>grey part in and out a few times. Then, put it back together with
>>the black part and attempt to insert. This is how I perform all of
>>my MST PICCs and most of the time I totally avoid the need to use
>>the scalpel.
>>
>>Nancy Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>My question for the day. We use Bard introducer, with groshong
>>piccs. In the past two weeks, it seems I have been having an
>>increasing problem with getting the introducer into the vein. No
>>trouble accessing the vein or threading the  guide wire, but when it
>>come to advancing the introducer through the skin, I have been
>>having major problems.  Small nick in the skin, able to get light
>>gray part into skin and then I hit the brick wall. Haven't changed
>>my technique. At first I thought it was just the large fatty arms,
>>with deeper veins, but last evening, the last two piccs placed,
>>presented me with this problem.  Is anyone having this problem now
>>or in the past? Any suggestion as to what my problem might be. I
>>probably have a 99% success rate with picc insertions and this
>>problem is troubling me. Thanks for any suggestions and for your
>>time as I ramble on.
>>Nancy Sullivan RN
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>>
>>Susan J. Fullana
>
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