I've stuck with Sooegoo II RED label as it is the one that works the best.
However, I've also used GE brand silicone seal, clear (look on the
information label and make sure that it says it can be removed with toluene
or tolunol).   Be sure to use it in a well ventilated space. Joyce

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Alan Di Somma <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Joyce:
>
> is it only the Shoegoo II or can any of the Shoegoo's work the same?
>
>
> Thank you,
> Alan Di Somma
>
> You know your a redneck when:
>
> You burn your yard, instead of mowing it...
>
>
> http://www.azflyfishing.net/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Joyce Westphal <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 01, 2010 7:29 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Juice-bug tutorial
>
> I've been using Shoe Goo II or silicone seal  mixed  with toluene (tolunol)
> available by the quart at your nearest hardware store. It works
> wonderfully..makes a clear, quick drying, flexible vinyl  cement similar to
> Flexament and waterproof. However, as was previously said, you must use it
> in a well ventilated room. Take the flies outside to put it on them.  You
> can also find a nice clear Deft waterbased polyurethrane that is excellent
> for clear heads with no oder.  But, though it is less toxic, I note that it
> does include a warning on the label.  Just my 2 cents worth. Joyce
>
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Don Ordes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Nev,
>>
>> I didn't see photos of their jelly-rope, so I don't know if the colored
>> ones are transparent.  The whole idea of my juice-bugs today is
>> transparency.  Decades ago when Swannundaze was available I did juice-bugs
>> of all colors including clear.  But Jelly-rope is softer and more clear than
>> Swan., and is round, not D-shaped.
>> I have clear and the 2 glittered flake ones in large.  All of these are
>> clear.
>>
>> Have them ship orders 1st class mail if they will for small orders.
>>
>> This below is what Mad River carries, from Spirit River:   (The root beer
>> is clear, but not real transparent.)
>>
>>
>> There are some companies handling the vinyl cement thinner, but it's only
>> in the 2oz. bottles.
>> http://www.shop.charliesflybox.com/Vinyl-Cement-Thinner-Wapsi28.htm
>> I go through that in no time.
>> A quart of vinyl and the 3 chemicals in quart cans lasts me 10 years, and
>> I use it for everything.  Vinyl is a very tricky plastic, so the thinner
>> for it is involved- needs to dilute without reactions.  I got the formula
>> from Ray Rumpf decades ago when he had to stop carrying it for shipping
>> purposes (bulk).
>>
>> Vinyl cleans up with mineral spirits I think, but it destroys the matrix.
>> It's not a thinner.
>>
>> This web site shows an 8oz can of vinyl cement for $11.00.  That's not too
>> bad considering they charge $4-6 for a 2oz jar of head cement.
>> http://www.sailrite.com/HH-66-Vinyl-Cement-Quart
>>
>> Don't forget to get the needle-insert glue applicators.  You flyshop can
>> get them from Hareline.
>>
>> WORD OF CAUTION!  Use with plenty of ventillation if you don't want voices
>> in your head.
>>
>> So you're going to do a Jelly-rope DVD now?  Kool!!!
>>
>> DonO
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Neville Gosling <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>  *Sent:* Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:38 PM
>> *Subject:* [VFB] Juice-bug tutorial
>>
>>   Well you've got me going. I have ordered some jelly rope. I went to the
>> Spirit River catalogue to view and then ordered small clear, couldn't find
>> chartreuse listed ( perhaps this is the hot yellow ) and the supplier I used
>> didn't have the red but I did order hot pink.   One supplier only shipped
>> UPS and the cost was high so I dropped that one.
>>
>> Now, as to thinning the vinyl cement, do I really need a mix of all three
>> of toluene, MEK & Acetone or do they all work individually?
>>
>> Next on the list is the vinyl cement,
>>
>> I an see a jelly-rope DVD on the horizon.
>>
>>
>> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>> Greater Vancouver,
>> B.C. Canada
>>
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