thanks for the info John
We may stop off at the Deschutes, I'll be looking for your findings on the
stoneflies.
Thanks again for all your help

Jim   "Troutman"
----- Original Message -----
From: John Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Troubles on the Deschutes


> Hi Jim-
>
> I don't think I'd worry too much about it if you're
> just wading on the state side of the river. It seems
> to be mostly driftboaters on the islands that they're
> targeting. If I hear anymore about it, I'll let you
> know.
>
> I was out on the Deschutes last Tuesday morning and
> saw one salmonfly and one goldenstone each. Caught the
> salmonfly and tossed him in to see what would happen.
> No takes, but with the slightly warmer weather the
> past few days, things may pick up. The owner of the
> local shop was on the river from Weds til today, I'm
> gonna try and catch up with him tomorrow and see how
> he did. Will let you know.
>
> Take care and good fishing.
>
>                          -John
> --- "april c. burbank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > John,
> > Thanks for the heads up. We are heading to the
> > Crooked river on Thursday
> > next week and were thinking of stopping off and
> > fishing the Deschutes for a
> > couple of hours. Maybe we'll just skip it this time
> > and fish it later this
> > summer.
> > BTW are the salmon flies hatching yet, or golden
> > stones?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jim Burbank   "Troutman"
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 6:16 AM
> > Subject: [VFB] Troubles on the Deschutes
> >
> >
> > > Hey Listers-
> > >
> > > Just wanted to warn anyone who plans to fish the
> > > Deschutes this weekend or any time in the near
> > future
> > > about a controversy on the middle portion of the
> > river
> > > that borders the Warm Springs Indian Reservation.
> > The
> > > Warm Springs Tribal Police (WSTP) Fish and Game
> > > division is claiming jurisdiction over the entire
> > > river that borders their land. Over the past two
> > days
> > > or so they have ticketed anglers ($500-$1,000) for
> > > trespass and illegal angling. Most typically, they
> > > have cited anglers who are fishing the islands in
> > > mid-channel. So far as I know they have not cited
> > > anyone on the state side of the river who was
> > wading.
> > > In one case they threatened to confiscate an
> > angler's
> > > drift boat, nearly all the anglers cited had their
> > > gear (rods, reels, etc) confiscated.
> > >
> > > For more info on this, go to <www.flyshop.com>. On
> > the
> > > left hand menu goto "VFS Region" and click
> > Northwest
> > > States and then goto the Bulleting Board. There
> > are
> > > several first hand letters from local guys who
> > were
> > > cited and had their tackle taken.
> > >
> > > Treaty rights and State and Federal law are
> > obscure
> > > and confusing on who has jurisdiction on these
> > waters.
> > > For info at least a few of the people cited had
> > Tribal
> > > Permits, boating permits, state angling licenses
> > and
> > > the whole nine yards. Not trying to stir any pots
> > on
> > > who has what rights, just want to warn people
> > headed
> > > here this weekend as to what's been going on
> > lately.
> > >
> > > For more info contact any on the local flyshops in
> > > Madras, Redmond, Bend, Maupin, etc. They're all
> > aware
> > > of the situation and may have more recent info.
> > >
> > > Take care and good fishing. A great weekend to
> > all.
> > >
> > >                        -John
> > >                         Oregon
> > >
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