In some states a fish must be hooked in the mouth to be legal ...
Thomas
piscator non solum piscatur
Thomas R. Eckert
Sonnhaldenstrasse 14
CH 8032 Zurich Switzerland


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Subject: [VFB] My first legal Halibut....maybe


Hello all.  It is not often that we as a community are given an
opportunity such as the one which I am about to present.  No - this is
not a solicitation in any way for funds, gear, goods, or
what-have-you....what I am offering to this group is the chance to help
define a small section of the Book of Fishing Ethics (a mythical
publication contained primarily in the mind of the fisherman.)

The question of the day pertains to the Philosophy surrounding the
question of "When is a fish caught?"  This, as with most philosophical
questions, might seem at first like an incredible waste of mental
energy....but I encourage you to dust off your Flyshop-Logo-Embossed
Thinking Caps, fire up those synapses and prepare to opine.

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What you are about to read is entirely true.  After having been duly
reprimanded by Master DonObiwan Ordes (a.k.a DonObi Wannabe, a.k.a.
DonObi
Wantoomany) for my, shall we say, inaccuracy in Piscatorial Enumeration,
I don't want to have people thinking that I am exaggerating...we are
talking about ONE fish here...I think.  


Last night I was fishing the Salty Pacific by the pier in Santa Barbara,
Ca (future home of yours truly...Santa Barbara, that is...not the pier).
After quite a long period of not catching anything (while watching my
friend repeatedly hook up) I began to become quite desolate.  Cast after
cast....nothing.  Then (and the Wheel of Fishing Karma spins and stops
on......I'm not sure).....hook up.  To something with weight.  That
doesn't move.  It just sits there.  "Crap...just a hang-up," says this
future-philosopher.  Then the hang-up moves a bit.  "Oh boy, not a
hang-up." I start to reel in....feels like I'm pulling in a piece of
lively kelp. "Bummer....lively kelp," says I.  My buddy had come over to
see what kind of hog I was pulling up...then quickly lost interest after
the "life" slowly ebbed from the "kelp" which I had so artfully tricked
into taking my fly. As I pulled my catch to the last five or so feet of
water...my fly breaks the surface...and it is snagged on a long piece of
green nylon.  "Aw crap...a piece of green nylon snagged on a piece of
Ex-Lively Kelp," thought I.  And then.... My Green Nylon Kelp Fish
decided that it didn't like the beach...and took off... Now - upon
bringing this heretofore unknown creature back to the beach I noticed
that it was actually a halibut of the Quite Large persuasion attached to
a green nylon stringer.  Apparently some sad soul had caught a nice
halibut, decided to put it on a stringer...and promptly lost it back to
the welcoming arms of the ocean.  Said halibut was landed and, to the
tune of much laughing, my friend and I started to philosophize (which
consisted mainly of a lot of head scratching.

Here's the question:
Did I catch my first legal halibut?

Points to keep in mind:
-I did land this fish
-I did cast the fly...played the fish...landed it without any assistance
-the fly was not in the fish's mouth...or even TOUCHING the fish at any
place on its body...it was attached to the STRINGER

So - If a fish is landed but only because of a snag on something left
behind from another fisherman...is it really caught? Another point for
consideration...if the person who had initially caught the fish was a
C&W guy (or gal)...and if the only reason that I caught this fish was
because they had ORIGINALLY caught it....do I lose any Purist Points
(please see the recent comment as a JOKE!!!)....am I to be classified as
a C&W Fisherman-by-proxy (twitch....shudder....)?

So - for those of you who have been kind enough to stay through the
whole story...now is the time for you to cast your vote.  
Did I catch a legal halibut?  Yes or no.  Or maybe....
Justify your answer...remember that we are defining the philosophical
standpoint for posterity.

Everyone has an equal vote...I'll let people know what the final outcome
is (a note to our esteemed delegates from the great state of
Florida....we're only voting ONCE per person....).

Cheers,
Chris (a.k.a Chrishopper)
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