Well  sir you caught the stringer that contained a
fish the fish did not strike your fly  your flie stuck
into the stringer  not legalay cauhgt but boy does
halibut sure taste good as an opurtunist i probably
would be eating halibut now 
brad the bushwacker--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Hello all.  It is not often that we as a community
> are given an opportunity
> such as the one which I am about to present.  No -
> this is not a
> solicitation in any way for funds, gear, goods, or
> what-have-you....what I
> am offering to this group is the chance to help
> define a small section of
> the Book of Fishing Ethics (a mythical publication
> contained primarily in
> the mind of the fisherman.)
> 
> The question of the day pertains to the Philosophy
> surrounding the question
> of "When is a fish caught?"  This, as with most
> philosophical questions,
> might seem at first like an incredible waste of
> mental energy....but I
> encourage you to dust off your Flyshop-Logo-Embossed
> Thinking Caps, fire up
> those synapses and prepare to opine.
> 
>
-----------------------------------------------------DISCLAIMER-------------
> ------------------------------------------
> 
> What you are about to read is entirely true.  After
> having been duly
> reprimanded by Master DonObiwan Ordes (a.k.a DonObi
> Wannabe, a.k.a. DonObi
> Wantoomany) for my, shall we say, inaccuracy in
> Piscatorial Enumeration, I
> don't want to have people thinking that I am
> exaggerating...we are talking
> about ONE fish here...I think.  
> 
> 
> Last night I was fishing the Salty Pacific by the
> pier in Santa Barbara, Ca
> (future home of yours truly...Santa Barbara, that
> is...not the pier).  After
> quite a long period of not catching anything (while
> watching my friend
> repeatedly hook up) I began to become quite
> desolate.  Cast after
> cast....nothing.  Then (and the Wheel of Fishing
> Karma spins and stops
> on......I'm not sure).....hook up.  To something
> with weight.  That doesn't
> move.  It just sits there.  "Crap...just a hang-up,"
> says this
> future-philosopher.  Then the hang-up moves a bit. 
> "Oh boy, not a hang-up."
> I start to reel in....feels like I'm pulling in a
> piece of lively kelp.
> "Bummer....lively kelp," says I.  My buddy had come
> over to see what kind of
> hog I was pulling up...then quickly lost interest
> after the "life" slowly
> ebbed from the "kelp" which I had so artfully
> tricked into taking my fly.
> As I pulled my catch to the last five or so feet of
> water...my fly breaks
> the surface...and it is snagged on a long piece of
> green nylon.  "Aw
> crap...a piece of green nylon snagged on a piece of
> Ex-Lively Kelp," thought
> I.  And then....
> My Green Nylon Kelp Fish decided that it didn't like
> the beach...and took
> off...
> Now - upon bringing this heretofore unknown creature
> back to the beach I
> noticed that it was actually a halibut of the Quite
> Large persuasion
> attached to a green nylon stringer.  Apparently some
> sad soul had caught a
> nice halibut, decided to put it on a stringer...and
> promptly lost it back to
> the welcoming arms of the ocean.  Said halibut was
> landed and, to the tune
> of much laughing, my friend and I started to
> philosophize (which consisted
> mainly of a lot of head scratching.
> 
> Here's the question:
> Did I catch my first legal halibut?
> 
> Points to keep in mind:
> -I did land this fish
> -I did cast the fly...played the fish...landed it
> without any assistance
> -the fly was not in the fish's mouth...or even
> TOUCHING the fish at any
> place on its body...it was attached to the STRINGER
> 
> So - If a fish is landed but only because of a snag
> on something left behind
> from another fisherman...is it really caught?
> Another point for consideration...if the person who
> had initially caught the
> fish was a C&W guy (or gal)...and if the only reason
> that I caught this fish
> was because they had ORIGINALLY caught it....do I
> lose any Purist Points
> (please see the recent comment as a JOKE!!!)....am I
> to be classified as a
> C&W Fisherman-by-proxy (twitch....shudder....)?
> 
> So - for those of you who have been kind enough to
> stay through the whole
> story...now is the time for you to cast your vote.  
> Did I catch a legal halibut?  Yes or no.  Or
> maybe....
> Justify your answer...remember that we are defining
> the philosophical
> standpoint for posterity.
> 
> Everyone has an equal vote...I'll let people know
> what the final outcome is
> (a note to our esteemed delegates from the great
> state of Florida....we're
> only voting ONCE per person....).
> 
> Cheers,
> Chris (a.k.a Chrishopper)


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