From: Jeff Frye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VFB] Politics in circuit tying Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 19:14:14 -0700 (PDT)
Mark, it takes 2 hours to tie those flies of yours if you don't talk. Otherwise, it's more like half a day. That's what was fun about pinch hitting for Misa and hanging with you, a little tying, a little visiting, a little digging around looking for the right material...:)
--- mark romero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree Henk, i normally give away all the flies i > tye at shows when the > "interest" is there, and when they "somehow" > indicated that it'd make their > day, lol. I don't always do it, but most of the > time. Sure wish i could sell > more though, lol. Soon, i will be shadow > boxing/framing them, and then they > will be better suited for sale. The flies i've been > doing at shows for the > last couple years are going to have to be sold from > now on. They take up to > two hours to do, and are done on expensive hooks, > with expensice > materials...........so. Sometimes i like just tying > with the CFTG because we > just do Catskill style flies that are cheap ( i have > enough hooks for a > lifetime) to tye and it's no problem just giving > them all away. See you at > the Sowbug, or maybe Danbury, or Somerset???? > mark........ > > > >From: Henk Verhaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [VFB] Politics in circuit tying > >Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:51:54 +0200 > > > > > >On 5 Oct, 2004, at 4:59, mark romero wrote: > > > >[...] > > > >>Then i branched out by simply pursuing the FFF, > the Upper Snake River > >>Cutthroats, Tony (for the Sowbug), and Jim Krul > for the two shows in > >>Danbury, Conn. > > > >Sort of what I did over here. Benefit here is, we > don't have big > >'commercial' shows like in the US, so it's a little > easier to get in. > > > >>And after more than a dozen yrs. of waiting and > going every yr. to the two > >>big Somerset shows, i think i finally have Chuck > where i want him, lol. > >>You gotta bribe him with flies of > course.......LOL. All kidding aside, > >>it's mostly an "All good things," type a > deal.....sorta hurry up and wait, > >>LOL. It helps if you gotta nich to fill. Something > you do that not to many > >>others are doing. > > > >Which is precisely why it is relatively easy for > Euros to get into US > >shows, and the other way around... You bring a > different flavour. > > > >>One bad thing about the shows nowdays is the fact > that they have to be so > >>money conscious/oriented that it doesn't leave > much room for "education" > >>in the tying sense. Sure there will be plenty of > "classes" being held, but > >>the "tyers row" guys are being squeezed more and > more by the promoters to > >>have to buy their spaces. > > > >Well, being a non-commercial tier, that's one thing > I would never do. I'm > >paying my own way to a show, down to lodging and > food usually, and I don't > >make a dime off it, so there's no way I'm actually > gonna fork out money to > >be allowed to tie. > > > >>.............guess it's one way to weed out the > wanna-bees. > > > >Well, if you come all the way from Europe, chances > are, you're no wannabe > >;-) > > > >>As to your thoughts about $$$$. I have no problem > at all selling flies, or > >>charging for lessons, but i'll never make any > serious money in it either. > > > >Well, I don't have no problem selling flies, it's > just that at a show, I am > >there to show people interesting things. If they > are interested enough to > >sit through a fly, and preferably interact with > what I'm doing, I think > >they deserve that fly ;-) > > > >As for 'lessons', usually being demos at FF clubs, > the same holds. If they > >will cover my travel expenses, I will be glad to > try and entertain them. > >Now if someone stepped up to me and asked for > private tying lessons, I'd > >probably start charging... > > > >>The money just isn't there. It's supplemental at > best. And that's all it > >>ever will be. No biggie, you do it because you > love it, and because it's > >>good for you. Any other reason is > ........well.......O's and A'........O's > >>and A's. later, mark.........p.s. i wanna see them > tools........ > > > >Yep. The only reason I sell the tools is to recoup > some of the investment > >in turning equipment and wood... > > > >For some early work, which ain't particularly > sophisticated, but gives a > >good example of the type of tools I'm doing, point > your browser to > > > >http://www.xs4all.nl/~flyrod/tackle/tools/index.html > > > >Henk > > > >====================Heisenberg was > right!========================= > >| Dr. Henk J.M. Verhaar | > | > >| Principal | e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > >| Ecotoxicology specialist | home: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > >| ENVIRON Netherlands B.V. | > | > >| Zeisteroever 17 | phone: +31 30 698 > 6218 | > >| NL-3704 GB Zeist | fax: +31 30 698 > 6239 | > >| the Netherlands | > | > >====================Uncertainty > happens!========================== > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! > Download today - it's FREE! > hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > >
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