Technically, Mark Did you adjust the pattern, or the presentation? DonO ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark romero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: presentation vs pattern/color
> VERY well said Don. And i would have to agree wholeheartedly. My point > originally was not to make any "blanket statements" but to encourage a > "trouter" not to get to hung up on patterns, and to concentrate on his > presentation. I've always found that if your presentation is good, you WILL > catch fish. Sure you may have to try a few different patterns, but that's > not the point. I once got 10 bows at the Covered Bridge pool, on the upper > Beaverkill, using a White Wulff (size 12) during a Coffin Fly spinner fall, > in about an hours time just before dark. The actuall spinners were probly > size 8 and of course very delicate, (as in a sparse tye). My Wulff's are > very bushy like all Wulff's. And all i did was smash they wing down flat, > and clip the hackle on the bottom. It was my presentation that did the trick > though. mark....... > > >From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: presentation vs pattern/color > >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:25:45 -0700 > > > >Let's see...what do we have so far in this discussion? > > > >Pattern > >Presentation/technique > >Size > >Color (let's include adding flash or accents) > >we cold include scent- or lack of wrong scent to be exact. (mostly for > >wets) > > > >But where do small nuances fit? > > > >I was fishing madam-X's in Jackson Hole, supposedly the hot fly that year. > >Not bringing them up at all. Went to a fly shop to see. The guy painted a > >red butt on the fly and I did very well after that. Who'd-a-thunk? This > >was > >a while ago, and that became a standard on a lot of flies- even humpies. A > >red marker became part of my vest supplies. Is this pattern? color? same > >fly... I found quite a few flies worked if they had the 'red-butt' applied. > > > >So is a dash of flash- color, wire, tinsel- to be considered presentation, > >like garnish? Or is it color? Or is that pattern? A renegade is a > >renegade. But gold wire or green wire can make a difference. It has for > >me. > > > >A 'Lisenring Lift' is a presentation. But a combination of the right fly > >and technique is required > > > >I was just on the North Fork of the Flathead. A smallish- size 18- dark > >mayfly was hatching- but not many of them. I tried quite a few size 18 > >patterns 'match the hatch', and could not get a rise to them, although the > >fish were rising. I started experimenting. What finally worked was a size > >12 dark brown parachute mayfly with very fine gold wire ribbing between the > >dubbing-rope segments. It had speckled hackles, spent winger wings, and a > >polar-bear post. But the fly didn't just work all by itself. As many of > >you trouters know, it still had to be cast into a riffle and brought into > >the seam, then the rise and take would come. (The polar bear post is great > >for high visibility in the riffles.) It was pattern, but not match the > >hatch. It was color, but with flash. It was presentation, but only with a > >certain fly. Was a larger fly needed, or did it just not matter, since it > >was my only dry mayfly with gold rib wire? > > > >I need to go up for about 3 months solid next year and do some more > >research. > > > >There are no blanket statements (which is an oxy-moron). Patterns CAN be > >the key. Presentation CAN be the key. Color/flash CAN be the key. Size > >CAN be the key. Combinations of any or all of these can be the key. All of > >what works changes with the species, seasons, weather, fishing pressure, > >etc. > > > >The North Platte River is about the right fly and the right presentation in > >combination- in the right season, considering location, and water temp., > >and > >clarity... > > > >Back to work, > >DonO > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Joyce's crafts and flies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:37 PM > >Subject: [VFB] Re: presentation vs pattern/color > > > > > > > An interesting discussion..and I believe both are important. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee� > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > >
