I have used several types of vices until I found the Nor-Vise. Granted I do not tie a multitude of flies in a years time but it sure is handy to take on fishing trips and such with its own tying table built right in. Neat for storage and such. The thread bobbin is the really great feature. Check it out.
-- Buck Hall Coldwater, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.adelphia.net/~ehall77
